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No server is entitled to a tip for DOING THEIR JOB. Tips are OPTIONAL.
People like you should be forced to work in the service industry. I wait tables and I make 4.65 an hour (which I struggle to get and have to beg for), which is actually a lot more than they make in some places. At some independent restaurants, they don't even give you an hourly rate and make you an "independent contractor". On top of that, the restaurant you work at is allowed to charge you for credit card processing fees, and you also have to "tip-out" other service staff (bussers, food runners, etc.), who also make very little. At the place I'm working now, I also have to "tip-out" a salad and dessert person and the hostess if she helps clear tables and do side work. Some servers don't even see half the tip from a table BEFORE taxes. Don't want to leave a tip? Stay at home.
It's the right thing to do, do you HAVE to hold the door for someone? No, but it's what a decent person does.
PS, and "tip-outs" are done from sales, not tips, so if a server gets a 10% tip, he still has to tip-out just as much as he does if he makes 20%.
Last edited by punkfan39126; 01-31-2013 at 07:41 AM..
I prefer the wages of the servers be incorporated into the menu prices of the items and the owner pay them the full minimum wage. If not, I want the option of picking my food up at the kitchen window myself and carry it to my table.
These same servers will demand a tip on the total check even if the resturant is BUFFET STYLE and all they do is refill drinks once or twice.
And, because the restaurants won't do that voluntarily--if they wanted to do it, they'd be doing it now--it will require raising the minimum wage of servers by law to make that happen. You guys can't have it both ways--either you believe tipping is a payment for a service you received, or you want the feds to intervene to make the restaurants incorporate the cost of servers into their budget through increased salaries.
I prefer the wages of the servers be incorporated into the menu prices of the items and the owner pay them the full minimum wage. If not, I want the option of picking my food up at the kitchen window myself and carry it to my table.
Tell it to restaurant owners. They don't want to jack up prices, so they won't pay their staff minimum wage. That's the way it is. If you don't tip, you are getting service for free and the person who waits on you is literally working for nothing. Living on tips is a precarious way to survive because of people who demand service but think they should get it for free.
Yes. Still, it is well within the Pastor's right to withhold the tip. There is no stipulation that the amount of tip given (if any) has to be commensurate to the service provided. That is just another social norm. In reality, you have every right to withhold a tip simply because you don't like the waiter's hair color.
Nobody's saying that he doesn't have the right not to leave a tip, but it certainly is bad form. Especially because he left a really obnoxious note.
I think a lot of you don't know how restaurants pay out tips. Because most sales are done via credit card, the restaurants will automatically take a percentage of a waiters total sales (not tips) from their tips to pay out to the hostess, bus boys, cooks. So if you decided not to tip, the waiter still had to pay out a percentage (say 5%) of your check... which could very well be more than the hourly rate they made, thereby they actually lost money serving your table.
The fact is being served food in a restaurant in this country comes with the expectation that you tip the customary percentage. If you walk into a restaurant with no intention of tipping or expecting the waitstaff to "earn it", you shouldn't be eating out. Only if the service is substandard, should you consider not tipping or tipping below the customary percentage.
Tips should never be included automatically and 18%???
That's up to the restaurant management/owner, so you shouldn't take it out on the waitstaff. The policy for large groups is well known and very common, and just about always printed on the menu or posted by the hostess table.
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