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Old 02-07-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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Because Reagan more or less destroyed all the unions.
He took on the airline unions. The rest they destroyed themselves.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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There's more than one contributor. If there was only one catalyst, the problem would've been ascertained years ago, and this crisis would've happened. When I said it's a very symbiotic process, I meant the whole system is flawed and all these aspects are interconnected.
The problem was pointed out long before it grew even larger and burst. We were told that there was no problem and the foundation was solid.

We had hearings on it. We had proposals to address the problem. We decided to ride it out.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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surely if more regular people have extra spending power then demand will increase.

blindingly obvious to anyone without even studying any economics whatsoever.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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You're "Chapter?" Prove it.
No, it's because even recording artist "Chapter" recognizes the problem. Here are some direct quotes from her: "This is where the taxpayer money goes." And, "It's free! Swipe your EBT."

Oh, and another exact quote... "All you gotta do is f*ck, and 9 months later you're getting the big bucks."
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And "Chapter" warns more ominously... "I gotta warn ya. If they don't get their money, they gonna kick your butt."
So you are submitting to me, with a straight face, a video off youtube by Chapter as proof of the general welfare crowd pumping out babies for money?
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:44 PM
 
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So you are submitting to me, with a straight face, a video off youtube by Chapter as proof of the general welfare crowd pumping out babies for money?
1) They get an increase in benefits for each child they bear.
2) The birth rate of those receiving public assistance is 3 times higher than everyone else's.
3) A recording artist who has personal experience with the problem portrayed it in her video.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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There was no simple solution to the problem, either. We grew complacent the entire time because we thought we were indestructible. Hindsight is always 20/20. The most we can do at the end of the day is learn from our mistakes and make sure we don't go back and repeat the same ones.
Rarely are solutions simple. That isn't a reason to ignore them. (we are repeating them)
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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1) They get an increase in benefits for each child they bear.
2) The birth rate of those receiving public assistance is 3 times higher than everyone else's.
3) A recording artist who has personal experience with the problem portrayed it in her video.
1). So the child receives 0% of increase in benefits?
2.) Goes back to that access and education thing I mentioned earlier
3.) A recording artist on youtube? Seriously..... That's just desperate.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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1) They get an increase in benefits for each child they bear.
2) The birth rate of those receiving public assistance is 3 times higher than everyone else's.
3) A recording artist who has personal experience with the problem portrayed it in her video.
Plus some liberals would have us believe that it is purely coincidence that the groups with the highest illegitimate birth rates are also the groups with the highest incidence of being on welfare. The fact that married women don't get welfare as easily as single women has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that these women, both white and black alike, don't marry the fathers of their children. Just coincidence. Nope, they aren't gaming the system. They're just helpless victims.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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1). So the child receives 0% of increase in benefits?
Benefits aren't paid to the child, they're paid to the parent (usually the mother). Little kids don't get EBT cards, their parent does.
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2.) Goes back to that access and education thing I mentioned earlier
Access? They get contraceptives for free via Medicaid, the schools, county health clinics, etc. They have more access than anyone else.
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3.) A recording artist on youtube? Seriously..... That's just desperate.
The fact that it upsets you proves that there's so much truth in it that it hits a nerve. The artist is performing a social commentary on her own peers.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:59 PM
 
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how many women really have a baby just so they can get welfare?

the extra costs of child-rearing surely outweigh any financial gain here, I would have thought
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