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Old 02-06-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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Another example of how govt run , public education is a failure.




Illinois Policy Institute - Blog - Top ten charters outperform top ten open enrollment, non-selective, traditional high schools in Chicago
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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So the charters are selective and the traditional schools are non-selective?
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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So the charters are selective and the traditional schools are non-selective?
Right.

Comparing Apples and Oranges.

Did you know students at Yale and Harvard outscore those at Austin Community College on the GMAT?
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Good for the Chicago Charter Schools, I know they work hard to educate plenty of the children that live in much poorer neighborhoods.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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The article is a farce. They are excluding the best high schools. That's like saying the top Vikings players are better than the top non starting Ravens players.

The top public schools creamed the best charter schools, hands down. Number 10 of the top ten public high schools scored about the same as number 1 of the charter schools.

Best Public Schools in Chicago and the Suburbs - Chicago magazine - September 2012 - Chicago

Many charter schools not measuring up in new report card data - Chicago Tribune
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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Well, it's pretty clear you didn't go to a very good school if you think that's a valid comparison.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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The article is a farce. They are excluding the best high schools. That's like saying the top Vikings players are better than the top non starting Ravens players.

The top public schools creamed the best charter schools, hands down. Number 10 of the top ten public high schools scored about the same as number 1 of the charter schools.

Best Public Schools in Chicago and the Suburbs - Chicago magazine - September 2012 - Chicago

Many charter schools not measuring up in new report card data - Chicago Tribune
Yeah, but those are mostly magnet schools so it's just fighting a bad comparison with an equally bad comparison.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yeah, but those are mostly magnet schools so it's just fighting a bad comparison with an equally bad comparison.
I would worry if their magnet schools weren't the top performers.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Charter schools ARE public schools. They are either chartered by the school district or by the state. The performance of charter schools is very uneven.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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This thread is an immediate failure and I will tell you why.

Charter schools in Chicago have the option to throw out disruptive students quickly because when you attend a charter school, you have a fallback (i.e. the neighborhood public).

It takes much longer to throw out disruptive children from a neighborhood public because they have no fallback. You must first write an intervention plan, possibly a behavior plan, document every little thing and maybe, just maybe that child will go to the district's alternative school.

A kid does something minor at a charter school, and he can be gone in an instant.

Until charter school advocates admit that they have this huge advantage, they are doing nothing more than blowing smoke up the public's rear with their numbers.
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