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How doesn't he? Doctors know medicine. They don't know anything more about what an informed decision is than you or I do. That's not a medical question. The doctor is simply being required to provide additional information to the woman, who is then free to make whichever decision she wants.
The doctor is being mandated (or would be, if it wasn't for the fact that the troglodytes now seem to display a rudimentary capability to learn from past mistakes) to perform a medical procedure, overriding both his/her medical expertise and the patients' wishes. Feel free to argue for it, but please realize that in doing so, you're demonstrating that the "party of smaller government" line is a lie - not that observant people didn't already know.
How doesn't he? Doctors know medicine. They don't know anything more about what an informed decision is than you or I do. That's not a medical question. The doctor is simply being required to provide additional information to the woman, who is then free to make whichever decision she wants.
It appears that others have answered this idiotic reply very well already. But here is additional information in case you have never visited a doctor or worse, don't really know what one is. The good news is that it looks like you have a rudimentary grasp of reading so here you go:
I'm facinated by the continued onslaught of bills and proposals set up to "help" and "inform" and "protect" women seeking abortions. Nobody is asking them for their help, information or protection and yet it seems to be all some lawmakers can think about. And, ironically, those same lawmakers are prolife/antiabortion but no, NO, they are NOT trying to punish woman or put up roadblocks...just trying to help, inform and protect them by micromanaging everything from the width of the doorways in clinics to the amount of pre-abortion hoops they have to jump through. For their own good. BWAHAHAHA! If only these lawmakers were as concerned about everyone else to this degree....
How doesn't he? Doctors know medicine. They don't know anything more about what an informed decision is than you or I do. That's not a medical question. The doctor is simply being required to provide additional information to the woman, who is then free to make whichever decision she wants.
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Originally Posted by Ceece
I'm facinated by the continued onslaught of bills and proposals set up to "help" and "inform" and "protect" women seeking abortions. Nobody is asking them for their help, information or protection and yet it seems to be all some lawmakers can think about. And, ironically, those same lawmakers are prolife/antiabortion but no, NO, they are NOT trying to punish woman or put up roadblocks...just trying to help, inform and protect them by micromanaging everything from the width of the doorways in clinics to the amount of pre-abortion hoops they have to jump through. For their own good. BWAHAHAHA! If only these lawmakers were as concerned about everyone else to this degree....
Women are just too simple to be able to know when they got pregnant or to even understand what pregnancy is. We need paternalistic lawmakers to really spell things out to us.
This may be true of republican women (because really...how could any intelligent and independent woman be a republican?), but not all women.
Which part of "it's already a requirement @ PP, and is a recc'd procedure" didn't sink in?
Y'know, it just strikes me - you haven't actually provided evidence for this "requirement" assertion of yours. Could you?
And of course, a "recommended" procedure is a far cry from "obligatory by law".
Anyway, how about dropping the pretense? We both know this sort of legislation is an attempt at placing roadblocks in the way of women wishing to have an abortion. Hell, you've admitted it's at best redundant already.
Michigan Republicans know that the main issue on everyone's mind is one settled forever in 1973; NOT jobs! They have already taken care of the job issue by attacking organized labor. Taking away workers' rights is a huge morale boost to the workers. Republicans really know how to do business. The absolute best way to get top performance out of your employees is to attack them. And the beatings will continue until morale improves! A worker's body has ways to deal with the financial rape, if it is a legitimate rape, that's for sure.
They are also going big-time for the womens' vote with this probe thing! They know women went for Obama in a big way and they are always thinking, 'what will bring them over to our side? Of course! Forced probing! Taking away their right to choose! The little ladies will be LINING UP to vote for us! Senator Footwound, hand me that cat o' nine tails!'
Women are just too simple to be able to know when they got pregnant or to even understand what pregnancy is. We need paternalistic lawmakers to really spell things out to us.
Exactly so. And furthermore, we need vaginal probes because unless we see it with our own eyes, we may not understand, in our pretty little heads, exactly what it means to be pregnant. Because, you know, women had never heard of pregnancy and childbirth before men and their vaginal probes came along to educate us.
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Originally Posted by mistyriver
This may be true of republican women (because really...how could any intelligent and independent woman be a republican?), but not all women.
. And, ironically, those same lawmakers are prolife/antiabortion but no, NO, they are NOT trying to punish woman or put up roadblocks...just trying to help, inform and protect them by micromanaging everything from the width of the doorways in clinics to the amount of pre-abortion hoops they have to jump through. For their own good.
OMG, You've discovered the very first time in American Political History that legislators on one side of an issue have attempted to change the parameters of a legal behavior in an attempt to influence levels of that behavior!!!!! Quick, someone find a history book publisher!!!!
OMG, You've discovered the very first time in American Political History that legislators on one side of an issue have attempted to change the parameters of a legal behavior in an attempt to influence levels of that behavior!!!!! Quick, someone find a history book publisher!!!!
Wow...and this is the first time that anyone has used the "everyone does it so it's okay!" defense.
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