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Old 02-07-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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Another person who has obviously never been in Arizona and cannot understand what the debate is about. (Not everyone is white and Irish in America. Thank God.)
What has that to do with not learning our national language?
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:04 PM
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What has that to do with not learning our national language?
English is not the language that everyone uses in the United States. That is especially true for the many people living in the southwest that had ancestors living on the land and speaking Spanish or some other language that was not English before the United States was even a country and long before Arizona was a state.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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What has that to do with not learning our national language?
Nothing. What's important to recognize is that the USA does not have a national language. We're just a mix of descendants of immigrants and immigrants that mostly speak English. States like Arizona have a large population of Hispanics because they used to be part of Mexico. So Arizona was Mexican first. It's only natural that their culture is Hispanic.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:36 PM
 
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Nothing. What's important to recognize is that the USA does not have a national language. We're just a mix of descendants of immigrants and immigrants that mostly speak English. States like Arizona have a large population of Hispanics because they used to be part of Mexico. So Arizona was Mexican first. It's only natural that their culture is Hispanic.
But you took Arizona and so everything must be Anglo-Saxon based. See how that logic works? It's ok to take control of other peoples and force them to learn a new language, but God forbid someone does that to the English speakers. The West was colonized by Spain for about 100 years longer than the US has had possession of it, it comes as no surprise whatsoever that the West, and more so the Southwest, is heavily Hispanic in influence, culture, and language. American culture has infiltrated this area in the 1800s, while the Spanish have been living in the Southwest since the 1500s or 1600s at the latest.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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Since the US doesnt have an official language, this doesnt make any sense. Let people speak the language they want. Who gives a damn !
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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But you took Arizona and so everything must be Anglo-Saxon based. See how that logic works? It's ok to take control of other peoples and force them to learn a new language, but God forbid someone does that to the English speakers. The West was colonized by Spain for about 100 years longer than the US has had possession of it, it comes as no surprise whatsoever that the West, and more so the Southwest, is heavily Hispanic in influence, culture, and language. American culture has infiltrated this area in the 1800s, while the Spanish have been living in the Southwest since the 1500s or 1600s at the latest.
It belonged to the Indians long before the Spanish arrived.

The Hohokams (just one example) were building hundreds of miles of water canals starting around AD600. Through what is today the city of Phoenix.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:47 PM
 
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It makes sense for Arizona to make the English language the official language in a country that has no official language? That makes no sense.
Why not? What makes no sense is your argument. Arizona is making it the state language, not the national language. So your argument holds no water. It is a valid exercise of their 10th amendment rights.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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Will Arizona ban Marco Rubio's Spanish response to President Obama's SOTU address on Tuesday? Oh, right, sorry... I forgot... Spanish is hunky-dory when the GOP is pandering vote Hispanic votes! LOL
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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Since the US doesnt have an official language, this doesnt make any sense. Let people speak the language they want. Who gives a damn !
That's the point. To make English our official language on the federal level also. Are you aware that many of our states have English as their official language? California is one of them but Arizona should be denied? That would not deny anyone the right to speak another language. It would however encourage assimilation to our language while saving us a lot of tax dollars not having to print all kinds of government documents in several different languages. English is our de facto national language and deserves its rightful place as "official" since it is a part of our identifying culture and heritage.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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But you took Arizona and so everything must be Anglo-Saxon based. See how that logic works? It's ok to take control of other peoples and force them to learn a new language, but God forbid someone does that to the English speakers. The West was colonized by Spain for about 100 years longer than the US has had possession of it, it comes as no surprise whatsoever that the West, and more so the Southwest, is heavily Hispanic in influence, culture, and language. American culture has infiltrated this area in the 1800s, while the Spanish have been living in the Southwest since the 1500s or 1600s at the latest.
LOL! Spanish is a white European language and it was the Spaniards who conquered the tribes south of our border. You were sayin? Our identity as a country overall is not Hispanic. We adopted English as our de facto national language not Spanish. Sorry if that grinds your craw.

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