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Old 02-08-2013, 06:49 AM
 
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Warning race card------yawn!
Truth- yawn.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:52 AM
 
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conservatives praise Dr. Ben Carson's speech because they perceive it to be anti-President Obama.

conservatives don't care about policy.

Mr. Carson's policy prescription of giving everyone a Health Savings Account upon birth, and the government putting money in would be massively expensive and a huge expansion of government.

Right now, people who aren't sick and who don't have health insurance and who are poor cost us nothing in healthcare.

Under Dr. Carson's plan, such individuals would from the time of their birth and for the rest of their lives every month or every year be consuming healthcare dollars from the government in health savings accounts that is HUGE government. Lol again, I'd support that idea. Let's do it.

Because in the end if their health savings accounts ran out or they didn't have enough in their health savings accounts to pay for care, they'd end up right back in the emergency rooms costing the whole nation a lot of money.

I keep pointing out that conservatives don't care about policy. They don't care about big government. \

They hate President Obama due to race or cultural reasons and they are fake supporting Ben Carson for cynical reasons. Until this speech and Limbaugh highlighting the speech as anti-Obama, 99.999999999999999% of conservatives had zero interest in Dr. Carson's life.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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This doctor is going to be punished for being so honest.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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This doctor is going to be punished for being so honest.
Why, would Dr. Ben Carson be in trouble? His health care solution is far more big government than anything President Obama has every proposed.

Dr. Carson wants the government from your birth to spend money on a health care savings account. This is a huge expansion of government. In fact, I heard another speech in which he compared this idea/new government program to the food stamp program.

conservatives don't care about policy. conservatives don't hate big government.

Oh he said something about taxing billionaires, oh the horror, President Obama whose cabinet and appointments are mostly millionaires hates the billionaires like Gates, the cats who own google, or Warren Buffett, or come on. Yes, Obama wants to punish billionaires. Yes, President Obama was so upset by those words from Dr. Ben Carson.

conservatives are insane.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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It must have been hard for Obama to sit there and get taken down knowing he couldn't match the good doctor in debating and intelligence.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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It must have been hard for Obama to sit there and get taken down knowing he couldn't match the good doctor in debating and intelligence.
conservatives praise Dr. Ben Carson's speech because they perceive it to be anti-President Obama.

conservatives don't care about policy.

Mr. Carson's policy prescription of giving everyone a Health Savings Account upon birth, and the government putting money in would be massively expensive and a huge expansion of government.

Right now, people who aren't sick and who don't have health insurance and who are poor cost us nothing in healthcare.

Under Dr. Carson's plan, such individuals would from the time of their birth be consuming healthcare dollars from the government in health savings accounts that is HUGE government. Lol again, I'd support that idea. Let's do it.

Because in the end if their health savings accounts ran out or they didn't have enough in their health savings accounts to pay for care, they'd end up right back in the emergency rooms costing the whole nation a lot of money.

I keep pointing out that conservatives don't care about policy. They don't care about big government.

They hate President Obama due to race or cultural reasons and they are fake supporting Ben Carson for cynical reasons. Until this speech and Limbaugh highlighting the speech as anti-Obama, 99.999999999999999% of conservatives had zero interest in Mr. Carson's life.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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conservatives praise Dr. Ben Carson's speech because they perceive it to be anti-President Obama.

conservatives don't care about policy.

Mr. Carson's policy prescription of giving everyone a Health Savings Account upon birth, and the government putting money in would be massively expensive and a huge expansion of government.

Right now, people who aren't sick and who don't have health insurance and who are poor cost us nothing in healthcare.

Under Dr. Carson's plan, such individuals would from the time of their birth and for the rest of their lives every month or every year be consuming healthcare dollars from the government in health savings accounts that is HUGE government. Lol again, I'd support that idea. Let's do it.

Because in the end if their health savings accounts ran out or they didn't have enough in their health savings accounts to pay for care, they'd end up right back in the emergency rooms costing the whole nation a lot of money.

I keep pointing out that conservatives don't care about policy. They don't care about big government. \

They hate President Obama due to race or cultural reasons and they are fake supporting Ben Carson for cynical reasons. Until this speech and Limbaugh highlighting the speech as anti-Obama, 99.999999999999999% of conservatives had zero interest in Dr. Carson's life.
If conservatives hate Obama and they perceive a speech as being anti-Obama, yes they will praise the speech. So what? Yes, people praise things that they agree with. How shocking. Is that a newsflash to you?

Carson's idea would be a contraction of government, not an expansion of government. The bureaucracy required to put a set amount of money in a set amount of accounts on a set interval would be very minimal. Ever heard of computers? They can do that sort of thing quite easily. That requires massively less admininistration than processing millions of medicare and medicaid claims.

Right now, people who are sick and have no insurance and are poor do not cost us nothing. They cost us massive amounts. Medicaid is exactly for those very people, and it is the government program in the single most amount of trouble.

Maybe you keep pointing out that conservatives don't care about policy because of the old adage "tell a lie often enough and people will believe it."

As for caring about big government, the Tea Party is all about caring about big government. Maybe liberals would realize that if they quit trying to play the race card against the Tea Party long enough to listen to what the Tea Party actually says instead of inventing what they think the Tea Party is all about.

Same applies for people hating Obama for race or cultural reasons. The only people saying that Obama is hated for race or culture reasons are liberals saying that conservatives hate him for those reasons. As for actual evidence that conservatives do hate him for those reasons, there isn't any. See my previous remark about continuously spinning a lie in the hopes it will catch on.

You're probably right that prior to this speech being highlighted conservatives had zero interest in Dr Carson's life. People don't tend to follow the lives of pediatric neurosurgeons. Another newsflash for you I guess.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:44 AM
 
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He'll be called an 'uncle tom" by lefties....especially black lefties.

obama is used to being applauded and cannot handle any criticism real or perceived....especially not in person.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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So conservatives think we should just give everyone money to buy health insurance?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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If conservatives hate Obama and they perceive a speech as being anti-Obama, yes they will praise the speech. So what? Yes, people praise things that they agree with. How shocking. Is that a newsflash to you?

Carson's idea would be a contraction of government, not an expansion of government. The bureaucracy required to put a set amount of money in a set amount of accounts on a set interval would be very minimal. Ever heard of computers? They can do that sort of thing quite easily. That requires massively less admininistration than processing millions of medicare and medicaid claims.

Right now, people who are sick and have no insurance and are poor do not cost us nothing. They cost us massive amounts. Medicaid is exactly for those very people, and it is the government program in the single most amount of trouble.

Maybe you keep pointing out that conservatives don't care about policy because of the old adage "tell a lie often enough and people will believe it."

As for caring about big government, the Tea Party is all about caring about big government. Maybe liberals would realize that if they quit trying to play the race card against the Tea Party long enough to listen to what the Tea Party actually says instead of inventing what they think the Tea Party is all about.

Same applies for people hating Obama for race or cultural reasons. The only people saying that Obama is hated for race or culture reasons are liberals saying that conservatives hate him for those reasons. As for actual evidence that conservatives do hate him for those reasons, there isn't any. See my previous remark about continuously spinning a lie in the hopes it will catch on.

You're probably right that prior to this speech being highlighted conservatives had zero interest in Dr Carson's life. People don't tend to follow the lives of pediatric neurosurgeons. Another newsflash for you I guess.
You don't know what you are talking about. In another speech, Dr. Carson compared his idea/new government program to the Food stamp program.

First, huge amounts of people who don't have insurance and can't afford insurance, don't have medicaid. See that was what the medicaid expansion in the new health bill called Obamacare is all about.

So those millions of people many of whom don't go to the doctor are costing us nothing. Under Dr. Carson's plan from birth, they'd be getting government checks.

Also, just because someone is in Medicaid, doesn't cost us any money until they use Medicaid. Huge amounts of poor people on Medicaid don't go to the doctor. So right now they cost us nothing, under Dr. Ben Carson's plan, they'd be getting a check every month from the start of their life.


Also Medicaid isn't 100% free for all of those people in it. Some of them pay money when they see the doctor. Some of them pay money for their children to be enrolled. Under Dr. Carson's plan, their health care savings account full of government money would support those expenses. LOL

Again, there is no way that someone who is objective can't see how Dr. Carson's plan is HUGE government and I support it. Let's make his plan the law. Please conservatives run with it. Liberals and Democrats would be sooooooooo resistant to the idea. LOL.

The conservative support for Dr. Carson's huge expansion of government shows they don't care about policy nor big government, they hate President Obama for race and cultural reasons and are fake supporting Dr. Ben Carson who they cared nothing about until they thought they could use his words to against the President, for cynical reasons.
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