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Any worker with a good work ethic and marketable skills should be able to make a living in Texas. That's what I'm saying.
I do agree that at some point, if it's not working out where you are, you have to look for greener pastures. Lots of those people who left Pittsburgh did not come back. However, there are many things to consider, e.g. family support, etc.
I agree on both counts in your first sentence. I've seen that in hospitals since the 70s. I just disagree that it causes people to leave their jobs for another. Maybe in high tech in the 90s for the young singles, and the very aggressive.
My sister has been doing it in nursing. She doesn't have kids so it's quite easy to pick up and move.
She's still getting sign on bonuses and this last job paid for her move to another state.
I do agree that at some point, if it's not working out where you are, you have to look for greener pastures. Lots of those people who left Pittsburgh did not come back. However, there are many things to consider, e.g. family support, etc.
There's lots that don't move for emotional reasons even though they know they'd be better off financially if they did.
If you cannot make it where you live financially then you need to move.
Being near family doesn't make it better in many cases.
And on the otherhand you have those retired folks that follow their kids all over the country and end up in financial trouble for the same emotional reasons..family trumps finances.
There's lots that don't move for emotional reasons even though they know they'd be better off financially if they did.
If you cannot make it where you live financially then you need to move.
Being near family doesn't make it better in many cases.
And on the otherhand you have those retired folks that follow their kids all over the country and end up in financial trouble for the same emotional reasons..family trumps finances.
Family can provide a lot of help you'd have to pay for otherwise, e.g. babysitting, etc. Decisions to move have to be taken carefully. I don't know as the minimum wage earner is any better off moving elsewhere.
Having worked in HR and staffing for about fifteen years I can tell you that the vast majority of workers with a good work ethic move quickly out of the "minimum wage or close to it" bracket - even TEMPS that are hired through staffing companies! Heck, I worked for a very good staffing company who wouldn't even work for companies that paid minimum wage because if we did have them as customers, we weren't able to attract quality employees.
Work hard, work smart and you won't be working for minimum wage for long.
Family can provide a lot of help you'd have to pay for otherwise, e.g. babysitting, etc. Decisions to move have to be taken carefully. I don't know as the minimum wage earner is any better off moving elsewhere.
Min wage goes a lot further in low COL states then high COL states.
The same can be said for cities within the state.
NY has city, state and fed taxes. If you commute into NYC then you also have a "commuter tax".
TX has fed taxes.
The min wage worker in Texas takes home more than that min wage worker in New York every week.
I've flipped burgers (literally), delivered pizzas, and worked in convenience stores. In these dead-end jobs, what skills, knowledge, and experience can be obtained to qualify one for a real job?
And I see this as a bad thing because people who need to work minimum wage jobs for a living will be undercut by subsidy kids (teens living at home who don't need to make a living, and college students working for beer money who also don't need to work for a living).
oh please
for 2 years everything is an excuse with you
cant do it...no money/..no experience...bad parents...its the landlords fault....etc
let's see you flipped burgers.....you LEARNED cooking, cleaning, cleaning grease traps, sanitizing, changing frying oil, how to hook up a soda head, stocking, what is frozen/refrigerated......plus hundreads of more tasks
you worked at a pizza joint...you delivered...during you time between deliveries did you learn how to make a sauce...some dough...temp of an oven...how to grate cheese...proper way to sclice... maybe service to the eat in customers......and many more
convience store...like a deli....you learned stock, inventory control, product placement, loss prevention...income/debt....and hundreads more tasks
too bad everything is an excuse to you
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I noted earlier that these figures are misleading. These numbers include those who make less than minimum wage. Wait staff make less than minimum wage but after figuring in tips many make way over minimum wage.
correct...which means its even LOWER of a percent of people making min wage
Dang, if I was the worker making $10 and the workers below me - presumably with fewer skills, less experience, etc got a raise and I didn't - I'd be TICKED OFF. I'd be looking for another job - and the restaurant would lose it's most valuable worker.
See how that works?
Why are you so worried about what someone else is making? Republicans call that class warfare.
Who is going to hire you? Fast food employers are laying off a bunch of people because of the increase in minimum wage right?
See how that works?
I'm sure they'll manage. If you can get more money somewhere else, then you should look into that regardless of whether your coworker is now making $9/hour. If not, you might just have to suck it up.
And you're living in la la land if you think everyone gets paid what they're worth without minimum wage. That scenario happens all the time now, at every workplace. People making $50,000 a year find out their lazy coworker who is late all the time, produces shoddy work, spends half the day posting on city-data, who has been there half as long, is making $48,000 a year. Or maybe even $52,000 a year. That's an issue everywhere, regardless of minimum wage.
I always find it funny and strange when people are concerned about what their coworkers are making. Better to worry about your own job and salary rather than wanting your coworkers to make less money so that you can feel better about yourself.
Why are you so worried about what someone else is making? Republicans call that class warfare.
Oh, I'm not worried. I've never had to ponder another person's salary for very long, because if I didn't like the disparity between pay ranges, I'd leave and work elsewhere. That's only been an issue once by the way in my twenty plus years of working. And it was very interesting how quickly I was offered quite a bit more money to stay once the issue came to light (with my resignation letter). I didn't stay though - life's too short to work where I'm not appreciated.
My time, however, is suddenly worth more than $10 an hour if suddenly the entry level person's time is worth more than it was five minutes ago. I intend to be paid what I'm worth. By the way, this is totally hypothetical since the last time I made $10 was when I was about 19. Over thirty years ago. Oh wait - I take that back - I worked a part time job for six months twenty years ago for $10 an hour over Christmas (retail). Guess what happened? I waited on a local businessman who later contacted me and offered me a job which tripled my income immediately. WOOHOO!
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Who is going to hire you? Fast food employers are laying off a bunch of people because of the increase in minimum wage right?
See how that works?
Well, thanks for highlighting that raising the minimum wage actually raised unemployment rates. I was going to do that, but you did it for me. SWEET!
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I always find it funny and strange when people are concerned about what their coworkers are making. Better to worry about your own job and salary rather than wanting your coworkers to make less money so that you can feel better about yourself.
I take it you don't have a problem then with those CEO/upper management salaries and bonuses.
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