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Old 02-19-2013, 09:45 PM
 
Location: WY
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Article discussing an internal DOJ memo. The memo was written by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) - the research and development arm of the DOJ. There is a link to the memo is in the body of the article.

Justice Dept. Internal Memo Admits Gun Buybacks, ‘Assault Weapons’ Bans, and Large Capacity Magazine Restrictions Don’t Work | Video | TheBlaze.com
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The title of the article and what is actually in the memo is a bit misleading.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Article discussing an internal DOJ memo. The memo was written by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) - the research and development arm of the DOJ. There is a link to the memo is in the body of the article.

Justice Dept. Internal Memo Admits Gun Buybacks, ‘Assault Weapons’ Bans, and Large Capacity Magazine Restrictions Don’t Work | Video | TheBlaze.com
This has never been about making anyone "safer." Or reducing the amount of crime by firearm. This has always been, and will always continue to be, about control. As long as the people are armed, the people are in control, and fascist politicians hate that. The only way fascists can gain control is by disarming the populace, and that is precisely why the Second Amendment exists in the first place.

So it does not matter how much or how little any new law impacts crime, as long as it deprives the law-abiding. That is their ultimate goal.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This has never been about making anyone "safer." Or reducing the amount of crime by firearm. This has always been, and will always continue to be, about control. As long as the people are armed, the people are in control, and fascist politicians hate that. The only way fascists can gain control is by disarming the populace, and that is precisely why the Second Amendment exists in the first place.

So it does not matter how much or how little any new law impacts crime, as long as it deprives the law-abiding. That is their ultimate goal.
Actually the memo points out that in Australia where they had a big gun buy back coupled with a ban did little to reduce gun violence, but they haven't had any mass shootings since doing such a thing. And seeing most people associate mass shootings to the need for gun bans, it makes sense to want to have measures in place that can limit or eliminate mass shootings.

If one wants to address gun violence you have to go after those that buy guns legally and then turn around and sell them illegally.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Actually the memo points out that in Australia where they had a big gun buy back coupled with a ban did little to reduce gun violence, but they haven't had any mass shootings since doing such a thing. And seeing most people associate mass shootings to the need for gun bans, it makes sense to want to have measures in place that can limit or eliminate mass shootings.

If one wants to address gun violence you have to go after those that buy guns legally and then turn around and sell them illegally.
Did I read in the memo that none of these laws mean squat without registration of our fire arms. I don't intend to register mine that were bought before that rule went into effect as many others refuse to do. I certainly do wonder if Dianne Feinstein really gives a damn about that as long as she can get all, or most of our guns turned in. She certainly does want to emulate Germany and Russia it seems.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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These are the true enemies of the people and the US Constitution:

Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA]
Sen Blumenthal, Richard [CT]
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA]
Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD]
Sen Carper, Thomas R. [DE]
Sen Cowan, William M. "Mo" [MA]
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL]
Sen Franken, Al [MN]
Sen Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [NY]
Sen Hirono, Mazie K. [HI]
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN]
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ]
Sen Levin, Carl [MI]
Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ]
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD]
Sen Murphy, Christopher S. [CT]
Sen Reed, Jack [RI]
Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV [WV]
Sen Schatz, Brian [HI]
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY]
Sen Warren, Elizabeth [MA]
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon [RI]

Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4]
Rep Bishop, Timothy H. [NY-1]
Rep Brady, Robert A. [PA-1]
Rep Brownley, Julia [CA-26]
Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-7]
Rep Carney, John C., Jr. [DE]
Rep Castor, Kathy [FL-14]
Rep Chu, Judy [CA-27]
Rep Cicilline, David N. [RI-1]
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-13]
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2]
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7]
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7]
Rep DeGette, Diana [CO-1]
Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [CT-3]
Rep Deutch, Theodore E. [FL-21]
Rep Doyle, Michael F. [PA-14]
Rep Ellison, Keith [MN-5]
Rep Eshoo, Anna G. [CA-18]
Rep Frankel, Lois [FL-22]
Rep Fudge, Marcia L. [OH-11]
Rep Green, Al [TX-9]
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-3]
Rep Hahn, Janice [CA-44]
Rep Higgins, Brian [NY-26]
Rep Himes, James A. [CT-4]
Rep Hinojosa, Ruben [TX-15]
Rep Holt, Rush [NJ-12]
Rep Huffman, Jared [CA-2]
Rep Israel, Steve [NY-3]
Rep Jackson Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9]
Rep Langevin, James R. [RI-2]
Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1]
Rep Levin, Sander M. [MI-9]
Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-17]
Rep Lynch, Stephen F. [MA-8]
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-12]
Rep Markey, Edward J. [MA-5]
Rep Matsui, Doris O. [CA-6]
Rep McCollum, Betty [MN-4]
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-2]
Rep Meng, Grace [NY-6]
Rep Miller, George [CA-11]
Rep Moore, Gwen [WI-4]
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8]
Rep Napolitano, Grace F. [CA-32]
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC]
Rep Pallone, Frank, Jr. [NJ-6]
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-7]
Rep Payne, Donald M., Jr. [NJ-10]
Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7]
Rep Pingree, Chellie [ME-1]
Rep Pocan, Mark [WI-2]
Rep Price, David E. [NC-4]
Rep Quigley, Mike [IL-5]
Rep Sarbanes, John P. [MD-3]
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9]
Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-28]
Rep Schwartz, Allyson Y. [PA-13]
Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [VA-3]
Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-15]
Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-30]
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-25]
Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9]
Rep Speier, Jackie [CA-14]
Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6]
Rep Tsongas, Niki [MA-3]
Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8]
Rep Yarmuth, John A. [KY-3]

Once again the Democrats are on the wrong side of history. They lost the Civil War and their ability to own slaves, now they want a War on the Second Amendment in order to make us all their slaves.
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