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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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That is my point. When referring to race, white people are referred to by their race (white or caucasian), not their region of origin. You don't see "Northern European American" on any census forms do you? That would be frickin' stupid.
If we are going to not allow white folks from South Africa to use "African-American" then perhaps black folks who trace their ancestry to the continent should use "sub-Saharan African American".

Yes - it really is foolish, and a perfect example of the insanity that ensues when we focus on differences rather than embrace unity.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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B/c it's not realistic. You don't see people in other continents downplaying their race/heritage do you? Sure, they'll acknowledge their nationality, but they don't act as if they are all ethnically alike. A fine example would be the South American area.
We are a nation of immigrants. Who cares of what nationality as long as they come here legally? I don't.

By many metrics we are one of the least racist countries in the world.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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By the way, white South Africans are not African Americans.
Sure they are - if they are American citizens who were from South Africa.

Do you think that South Africa isn't on the continent of Africa?
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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Sure they are - if they are American citizens who were from South Africa.
Nope.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: 53179
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You boys want some cheese to go with all this whining?
Yes, and another bottle of whine please
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why can't we use Moor as defining term for race? That would solve this African, Black, Caribbean debate. Just saying
Or we could use Hamite.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:01 PM
 
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Blacks from South Africa will check the "African American" box, whites from there will check the "Caucasian" box.
But people from South Africa are not African Americans and Caucasian is not limited to white people.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:05 PM
 
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Nope.
Why not?
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Yes, and another bottle of whine please
We are out of merlot, but there is a fresh bottle of pinot noir.
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