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You're wrong. We need to study and understand them. There must be a good reason why Muslims institutionally beat their women, so we can learn from them. After all, when a Muslim kills a person because they are gay, or rapes and beats a woman because she accidentally flashed her ankles, it's not the Muslim's fault. It's our fault, we failed them, we failed to tale their needs into account
You failed to understand the deep need for some to use cultural relativism as a select fire political weapon. Pure of heart in their intentions, they just need our patience until the consolidated phase is complete.
It would not be hard to find examples, all around the world, of male dominated societies in which the women of that society are being subjugated...
2nd. There many accounts of domestic workers[foreign and domestic], all around the world, being abused by their [host]employers.
If one truly believes in womens[wife's] rights or the rights of domestic workers, then that concern should be on a global scale...not "cherrypicked" to meet some narrow narritive.
Neither is better, both are equally dangerous. Religion however has been around much longer and it would be stupidity not to see it has done more harm.
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2 points.
It would not be hard to find examples, all around the world, of male dominated societies in which the women of that society are being subjugated...
2nd. There many accounts of domestic workers[foreign and domestic], all around the world, being abused by their [host]employers.
If one truly believes in womens[wife's] rights or the rights of domestic workers, then that concern should be on a global scale...not "cherrypicked" to meet some narrow narritive.
It's a bloody problem with muslims more than others. There are more than 1 billion of them, they're actively spreading all over the world with their behaviour and this is specific to their religion. Their religion seems somehow immune to criticism and they've even gone to the UN to make criticism of islam a crime. No one is cherrypicking.
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As long as those cultures keep those behaviors over there and don't bring them here, it's their problem.
Too late, they've been bringing it to nonmuslim nations for yrs now, we're just now only beginning to see it in full force. Even born and bred muslims in nonmuslim nations had problems, just no one spoke of it.
So now it's everybody's problem, as Europe can attest with mass rapes, sex grooming gangs, harassment, intimidation etc.
I wonder if the people in Indonesia know about their original culture and how Islam has set them back. As I post this, on the pages of Daily Indonesia is a link to a story of an Indonesian politician's links to Al Qaeda. How pathetic; Arabs and their backward religion have managed to de-evolve any group they touch...from Africans to Asians to Persians. All those people are totally brainwashed to terrorize any nonmuslim group until they submit. They have abandoned their true culture and instead now view their women as property.
Meanwhile, delusional Libs and their protected group of equally delusional modern muslim women to continue to deny and censor the effects of islam and its people on women, gays, freedom etc, insisting that old white men in the US who make offensive comments on rape, abortion etc are somehow more dangerous.
Deny, deny, deny, like "Baroness" Warsi, who demands more tolerance of muslims and their vile behaviour from Brits, so they can import their primitive ways and barbarism to Europe: https://www.city-data.com/forum/28030654-post7.html
I don't know what will make these idiots realize that islam does not work in any nation.
Not my fault, not my problem. If these idiots want to embrace a barbaric culture and worship a pedophile profit, let them and stay the heck away from them.
I thought Conservatism made things great? Keeping traditions is important you know.
WTF are you talking about? Is it possible for you to focus and deal with the issue in a mature manner without turning everything into your beef with religious folk for oppressing glbts? BTW, gay activists don't exactly have a moral high ground, with all the lies they push.
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Not my fault, not my problem. If these idiots want to embrace a barbaric culture and worship a pedophile profit, let them and stay the heck away from them.
I posted this due to the typical, blatant Liberal denial, mockery and immaturity that accompanied my posts here:
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Meanwhile, delusional Libs and their protected group of equally delusional modern muslim women to continue to deny and censor the effects of islam and its people on women, gays, freedom etc, insisting that old white men in the US who make offensive comments on rape, abortion etc are somehow more dangerous.
Since you choose to start this "delusional Libs" BULLS**T with your condemnation of Islam, perhaps you'd care to enlighten us on WHY the seemingly delusional Neo-Cons believed it a noble thing to waste American blood and $$$ fighting for the freedom of Muslims?
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Neither is better, both are equally dangerous. Religion however has been around much longer and it would be stupidity not to see it has done more harm.
From what brand of BS did you derive this gem? Or were you just waiting for a chance to utilize your new grammer skills on the Internet?
It's a bloody problem with muslims more than others. There are more than 1 billion of them, they're actively spreading all over the world with their behaviour and this is specific to their religion. Their religion seems somehow immune to criticism and they've even gone to the UN to make criticism of islam a crime. No one is cherrypicking.
In fact, I am practicing to improve my grammer and spelling skills; but that doesnt discount my 2 points.
Does it? I was in a coma for 3 weeks an lost some cognitive skills, but Im making a good but slow come-back.
Muslims as well as others beat their wives. are you concerned with all wives, or just Muslim wives?
Since you choose to start this "delusional Libs" BULLS**T with your condemnation of Islam, perhaps you'd care to enlighten us on WHY the seemingly delusional Neol-Cons believed it a noble thing to waste American blood and $$$ fighting for the freedom of Muslims?
You libs can never debate maturely, can you?
Firstly, you need to stop assuming that everyone who criticizes Libs are automatically neo-cons who are warmongers. I specifically stated many times on CD I'm not & I don't support that ideology. So quit with the whiny, 6 yr old boy mentality. You should also know the current Lib president isn't really against warmongering himself, if you look at this recent record. Funny how "condemnation" of a religion suddenly turns a bad connotation when the religion isn't Christianity. Libs are masters at digging their own graves. Obviously islam = more freedoms than christianity, and criticizing the former obviously means you're a fan of the latter.
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