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Old 03-10-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This posting is NOT whether you agree with Senator Rand Paul about drone policy…this is about good manners and decency.
Senator Rand Paul, as far as I recall, did NOT get personal or trash or insult anyone in his filibuster. Instead Senator Paul passionately debated. He also did not break any Senate rule but rather debated within the framework set forth by the Senate.

Can you say the same for his critics? Did they passionately debate (and disagree) with him — or did they get personal and insulting?



Look at this very thread, to see the educated and the ignorant. At least the educated opposition tried to debate. The ignorant, just names and smears of the messenger, but zero for the message.


There is no debating the truth.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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This posting is NOT whether you agree with Senator Rand Paul about drone policy…this is about good manners and decency.
Senator Rand Paul, as far as I recall, did NOT get personal or trash or insult anyone in his filibuster. Instead Senator Paul passionately debated. He also did not break any Senate rule but rather debated within the framework set forth by the Senate.

Can you say the same for his critics? Did they passionately debate (and disagree) with him — or did they get personal and insulting?



Look at this very thread, to see the educated and the ignorant. At least the educated opposition tried to debate. The ignorant, just names and smears of the messenger, but zero for the message.


There is no debating the truth.
Thanks BentBow, I probably should have pasted it here too considering it from a evil site..





Rand Paul 2016
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:49 PM
 
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and people say Obama supports see him as a messiah LOL
Actually it was right wingers who gave Obama the messiah tag.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I see that rather than discuss the issue, the liberals are doing what they do best, deflect.

Pathetic.
Is the issue here filibusters or the use of a prompter?

So far, no one has said much about why a filibuster is done.

The objects of a filibuster are: to stall legislation, which allows time for votes to be gathered, votes to be switched, or to bring an issue into prominence it had not gotten before.

Filibustering speeches do not have to make sense, or even address the issue in question beyond a few moments. When members of Congress were required to actually be present and actually deliver, anything could be said. One Senator in the 19th century spend 2 days reading Dicken's Pickwick Papers aloud. All that matters is physical tenacity and the fact that no other business can be done until the filibusterer has finally worn out.

A prompter isn't needed at all to accomplish a successful filibuster.

Any politician who does not have a prompter on hand for an important speech is a fool.
Important speeches are always written down and memorized, but anyone, no matter how well prepared, can have a mental lockup at an unexpected moment, or can get flummoxed by a mis-spoken word.

Reagan was an actor, and the biggest part of his job was memorizing lines. He knew how to memorize, but he also knew there would be no re-takes during a live speech, so he took no chances. The prompter was there if he needed it, even when he did not need any prompting.

The same is true with every politician who delivers an important live speech. Every single one of our Presidential candidates and Presidents, and all politicians who give live speeches on TV use them.

In pre-recorded speeches there is always the possibility of a do-over. As many as needed. Anyone who thinks a recorded speech is done flawlessly on the first take is naive. Just as in the movies, we never see the out-takes in the finished product.

The only alternative in a live speech is to carry the written speech in some form to the podium, and this has been accepted forever. The only difference is the speaker, when using a prompter, can keep his head up, delivering good eye contact with his audience instead of needing to continually glance downward then finding his visual contact again, over and over.

The only thing that's pathetic is trying to make the use of a prompter an issue in the first place. If any of our founding fathers had them back then, they would have used them. All they are is an less obtrusive way of delivering a good, well written, speech effectively.

Ironically, Sarah Palin, the most scatterbrained live speaker ever, is one of the best speakers ever if she has a prompter. Her TV experience paid off every time she had good words to speak on her prompter, and she was as relaxed as Reagan when she used one.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Actually it was right wingers who gave Obama the messiah tag.
For good reason. Obama's comment on himself being elected:

I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. This was the moment - this was the time - when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves, and our highest ideals.


Militant BLACK Obama Youth Group: Let's SCARE the **** out of WHITE Grandma? - YouTube


Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video - YouTube


Obama Kids Music Video : Cute or Creepy ? - YouTube
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:35 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Talk about having way too much time on your hands...wow.
lol.....

That was my first thought when I read that, too.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:38 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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If you spoke about a single topic for 13 hours, pretty sure you would have repeated yourself too.
It was a thirteen hour campaign speech.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Really hung up on that poodle, aren't ya?
Really! Kind of weird, huh?
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:53 PM
 
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It was a thirteen hour campaign speech.

Nothing more, nothing less.
If thats what you think.
Nevermind the next election is more than 3 years away and hasn't even announced if he will run yet....




Rand Paul 2016
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:54 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Maybe it's just me.

But that boy is the poster child for whiny metrosexuals.
Maybe that's it.

There's something kind of "greasy" and creepy about him that I haven't been able to put my finger on.

Something.....icky.
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