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Originally Posted by DoD Guy
Yeah talk is cheap.
Tell us when you were last in Iraq and what you witnessed.
Share your conversations that you had with Iraqi civilians on the super awesome treatment Saddam and his wonderful govt gave them.
Right after you tell us where the Constitution makes improving life in Iraq an assigned task/duty of the US Government.
Right after you tell us where the Constitution makes improving life in Iraq an assigned task/duty of the US Government.
Typical lib deflection tactic.
Use the same constitution to hide behind that you're spending your life trying to shred.
Tell us what you saw in Iraq, not on CNN.
Waiting.
Typical lib deflection tactic.
Use the same constitution to hide behind that you're spending your life trying to shred.
Tell us what you saw in Iraq, not on CNN.
Waiting.
It doesn't ****ing matter what [you] or anyone else 'saw' in Iraq, we should never have been there in the first place.
There is no righteousness with an illegal and untruthful premise to the invasion and occupation, regardless of whether everything is all unicorns and rainbows in Iraq now.
Most of all, the lies and deceit cost Americans dearly, monetarily and in the blood of our soldiers.
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by DoD Guy
Typical lib deflection tactic.
Use the same constitution to hide behind that you're spending your life trying to shred.
Tell us what you saw in Iraq, not on CNN.
Waiting.
In other words, typical conservative BS, you have NOTHING to justify our involvement in Iraq and what anyone saw there doesn't change that one damn bit. I don't give a rat's ass if you saw life improve there 500%, IT WAS NEVER our job to make that happen.
BTW, asking for an explanation of WHERE the Constitution assigns a task to the US Governmengt IS NOT hiding behind it, despite your inane allegation.
Yeah talk is cheap.
Tell us when you were last in Iraq and what you witnessed.
Share your conversations that you had with Iraqi civilians on the super awesome treatment Saddam and his wonderful govt gave them.
Why don't you talk to the families of 4500 dead Americans who had to fight while others stayed home, and the families of inestimable numbers of innocent dead Iraqis.
Talk to the families of our dead fighting allied soldiers whom Bush dragged into his war.
Which religious denominations just traded out each others' oppression, and why the country is now in chaos with the elimination of Al Qaeda's biggest enemy.
Where is the oil money which was supposed to pay for the war.
Why you have no problem with trillions in taxpayer spending here, but continue to complain about "Obama's debt" and "democrat spending".
Why you have zero problem with spending your money on "nation building", which conservatives claim to oppose.
Gawd, the neanderthal Right...
Well I'd say DOD dude got his answer. I know it was probably good for him, all the blood money he raked in. Now he tries his best to spin things to allay his conscience, provided, of course, he has one.
We were at war with Iraq since 1991. Just didn't invade to finish the job until 2003. Spent almost 12 years conducting 'seige warfare' killing far more with sanctions than were killed by combat operations. We maintained a huge military presence over there those years prior to the invasion. It seemed inevitable that an invasion would occur, was it better sooner than later.
Of course it was not inevitable. It was the result of grotesquely stupid and feckless Western statecraft.
After 9/11 we had a chance to welcome Iraq back into the community of nations as an important and proven enemy of al-Qaeda. We blew it.
I'm sick of everyone thinking the US main export should be democracy at gun point. So ****ing sick of it.
Agreed. Here's the kicker, those on the right who push spreading "democracy" really want to spread capitalism, but they use the term "democracy" because it's more palatable to most ears.
Capitalism (and political capital), especially Big Oil, is the reason we sent our soldiers to die in Iraq, in the belief that ignorant Iraqis would, at least at first, embrace the corporate influx.
Cheney met with the oil companies to divide up oil revenues long before the war started. Many of these types really don't like the "messiness" of democracy and the lower class vote, which might turn against them at some point.
Much like here in the U.S.
Agreed. Here's the kicker, those on the right who push spreading "democracy" really want to spread capitalism, but they use the term "democracy" because it's more palatable to most ears.
Capitalism (and political capital), especially Big Oil, is the reason we sent our soldiers to die in Iraq, in the belief that ignorant Iraqis would, at least at first, embrace the corporate influx.
Cheney met with the oil companies to divide up oil revenues long before the war started. Many of these types really don't like the "messiness" of democracy and the lower class vote, which might turn against them at some point.
Much like here in the U.S.
And those on the "left" really want to spread "chaos", "mob rule", "communism". Democracy without Christian Morality is just as you say, much like what we have here in the U.S. It will get much worse before it gets better.
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