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Old 03-21-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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I read a study that is linking autism to air pollution. The article was saying that pregnant mothers and new born babies exposed to more air pollution have an increased chance of developing autism. I don't know if that is actually the cause, but I feel that environmental factors are playing a role.

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Old 03-21-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They think one of the reasons so many Americans are developing celiac is because of the wheat grown here. Americans like white, fluffy bread, so big ag selectively bred (not genetically modified) the wheat crops here to contain massive amounts of gluten, compared to wheat grown around the rest of the world--gluten is the stretchy protein that allows bread to rise. Our bodies evidently can't handle the extra gluten. Flour and gluten based food starch is in nearly EVERYTHING. We always thought we were eating healthy by only eating whole wheat flour products...
You have GMO wheat and very little gluten is made in the US anymore.
The sad fact is that it's cheaper to import wheat gluten from China than to produce it here.

The bread you eat today is not the same bread you ate a mere 15-20 years ago.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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It's not just autism though. There has been a steady increase in childhood chronic illnesses and that even has medical researchers stumped looking for answers.

I think I will go with the medial researchers on this rather than you so flippantly dismissing this as better testing.
I am not flippantly dismissing...I am stating fact...and as a parent of an aspergers (part of the autism spectrum) child.. I have first hand knowledge


this goes back to the 1980's when liberals pulled the mentally ill out of institutions because it was inhuman.

there was was a REDEFINING in the 80's

prior to 1985 most kids with autism ended up being classified as juvenile schitzipherenia(forgive my spelling) and retarded or hyper (btw ADHD is part of the autism spectrum also)

the percent of kids with (using an oold outdated term) retardation/mental incompacity/autism has stayed mostly level...the difference is that instead of having 3 JS, 1 AUT, 6 retards (10 kids) out of 1000....now its just 10 autism/asperger out of 1000 (1 in 100)

the same with in the 80's when the liberals have many of the institutions closed because it was 'inhuman' to lock these people up....now they are the growing population of HOMELESS (85% of homeless at mentally ill)

actually almost every human has 2-3 tendencies of the autistic spectrum...but you dont get diagnosed until you have 5 or more tendencies

think of "Monk"..... OCD is part of the spectrum



btw...its not just here in the good ole USA.....nearly 40% of all europeans suffer from mental illness


btw2...some say the the new ( manditory in some places) whooping cough vacine (part of the DPT shot) may trigger the AUTISM GENE
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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I read study that is linking autism to air pollution. The article was saying that pregnant mothers and new born babies exposed to more air pollution have an increased chance of developing autism. I don't know if that is actually the cause, but I feel that environmental factors are playing a role.
I don't know if I'm buying that. Isn't our air quality better now than it ever has been ? Unleaded fuels, Emissions on autos, and trucks. Also better polution managment at factories.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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I am not flippantly dismissing...I am stating fact...and as a parent of an aspergers (part of the autism spectrum) child.. I have first hand knowledge
And again..it's not JUST an increase in autism that is being noted.
And medical experts have not claimed it's been better diagnosis for the increase ACROSS THE BOARD of childhood chronic illnesses.

The last 3 years I've been in schools teaching and subbing and I was surprised at how many student have to go "take their medicine" during the course of the day. It's 1-2 students per class for 7 classes per day.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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New CDC report says 1 in 50 kids is autistic.

Autism survey finds 1 in 50 American kids are on the spectrum | NJ.com

There has to be some environmental impact causing this. Makes you wonder if our tech is destroying us.
It's not technology, it's vaccines.
Possible link between vaccinations, thimerosal, asthma, and autism? - Salt Lake City Utah County Libertarian | Examiner.com
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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I don't know if I'm buying that. Isn't our air quality better now than it ever has been ? Unleaded fuels, Emissions on autos, and trucks. Also better polution managment at factories.
More and more people are living in urban areas with concentrated air pollution and carbon emissions are currently at an all time high.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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The allergy and food intolerance issue is out of control, and it seems to get worse all the time. For example--celiac disease (a potentially life threatening intolerance to gluten found in wheat, rye and barley--it's an autoimmune disorder) is often considered genetic, or at least they think it is--it's found in families. My kids are adopted (two sets of siblings and half siblings) and one of my children has it. Even though I'm not biologically related to my children, I'm also severely gluten intolerant, but just under the threshold for celiac. We don't eat many processed foods, and we never have. What's causing this stuff?

If it was caused by immunizations, older adults wouldn't be developing allergies and intolerances during middle age. I know adults who are suddenly developing asthma in their late 40s and 50s. It has to be something environmental or in our food.
The overall increase in all types of auto-immune disorders is quite disturbing.

A couple of theories and a study that is looking for a possible link between autism and these disorders:

Lack of parasites, increase in diseases

Too much salt may trigger autoimmune diseases, studies find | Fox News

Autism tied to autoimmune diseases in immediate family - USATODAY.com
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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There really is no mystery about the increase in all childhood issues.

Healthcare is more prevalent. There is really no lack of at least basic health care for children - they are able to receive all vaccinations, etc regardless of income in pretty much the whole US.

But, the increase in processed foods and decrease in exercise due to the prevalence of money (wage or government-provided) to buy what one used to have to expend energy for causes many problems. I have kids, and the diets of most children I know is terribly nutritionally deficient, and many, many children get no exercise at all beyond what they get in school PE and recess.

I remember pollution being a huge issue when I was a kid in the 70s and it is not so nearly bad now (at least where I live).

Add to it GMO foods, medication for every burp and ache, increased diagnosis and the resultant medical billings and pharmaceuticals, the ability to promote life no matter the medical problems (extreme preemies, etc), etc and you get a recipe for a population in declining health that starts with children.

People don't clean their homes, our clothing are made out of engineered fabrics, etc. Everyone breathes all that. I work at a department store and just the chemicals they put in the clothes for the long slow boat ride from the manufacturer gives me problems.

Add to that the current fad of every parent demanding a diagnosis for whatever is wrong with their "special" child, and you have the recipe for what we see here.

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Old 03-21-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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You have GMO wheat and very little gluten is made in the US anymore.
The sad fact is that it's cheaper to import wheat gluten from China than to produce it here.

The bread you eat today is not the same bread you ate a mere 15-20 years ago.
Are you sure about that? I'm not a wheat farmer, but my understanding is that our export to import ratio on wheat is about 100 to 1. Even the Chinese are looking to import more US wheat because of the higher gluten content--as the country becomes more westernized, consumers in China want white fluffy bread too.

China looks to increase U.S. wheat imports | Government content from Western Farm Press
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