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Yeah but republicans wouldn't allow a better plan. For years they had control and not once did they offer a solution to the healthcare mess. Not once. So now you have "Obamacare". It's not perfect and will require some tweaking but at least it's a start. I know you hate it but you should've done something years ago. Republicans reaping what they sow. Or in this case didn't sow.
Republicans were certainly opposed, but you are missing a few key points.
#1 Obama was opposed to the very system put in place during the primary.
#2 Obama passed off the creation of Obamacare to Reid and Pelosi...it should be re-nicknamed Reid-Pelosi-Care. Obama really didn't take a leadership role in the formation of it.
#3 Obama passed Obamacare without Republican support. Not 1 Republican voted for Obamacare in the Senate. Not 1 Republican voted for it in the House. You act as if Obama compromised with Republicans. This is not true. Obama was not a strong enough leader to get his own party on the same page. Obama had the votes to pass the plan he talked about in the primary - if only he were a good enough leader to be able to convince 5/6ths of his own party in congress...but Obama wasn't that good leader.
Glad you asked... after I answer, maybe you can describe ONE GOOD THING he has done in 4 years...
From today's WSJ, an OpEd that I think summarizes the damage rather nicely:
"President Obama is the most radical man ever to occupy the Oval Office. The national debt, which he is intent on increasing, has passed $16 trillion."
"The president has launched a war on Americans' Second Amendment rights. He has launched a war on religious freedom. He has launched a war on fossil fuels. He is working to nationalize one-sixth of the economy with job-killing ObamaCare. He wants to collect a greater portion of every American paycheck, not for the purpose of paying down the national debt but to expand his governing machine. He doesn't believe in creating a bigger pie with more opportunity for all. He believes in greater redistribution of a much smaller pie."
"The president has so effectively diminished American strength abroad that there is no longer a question of whether this was his intent. He is working to pre-emptively disarm the United States. He advocates slashing our nuclear arsenal even as the North Koreans threaten us and the Iranians close in on their own nuclear weapon. He has turned his back on America's allies around the world and ignored growing threats."
"Al Qaeda is resurgent across the Middle East. President Obama stood by and did nothing when its affiliates in Libya killed the U.S. ambassador and three other brave Americans in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11. Then he and his administration misled the American people about the attack. Today, more than six months later, no one has been held to account."
Etc.....
I agreed with you up to this point. Obama is an awful president but he is no Democrat.
When this drivel gets posted you lose credibility. Fail
When morons start talking about how hes the most radical/liberal president blah blah blah
One question how are the rich doing? That should answer everything
Same old tired talking points in this OP/ED and people like you still buy into it sigh
Glad you asked... after I answer, maybe you can describe ONE GOOD THING he has done in 4 years...
From today's WSJ, an OpEd that I think summarizes the damage rather nicely:
"President Obama is the most radical man ever to occupy the Oval Office. The national debt, which he is intent on increasing, has passed $16 trillion."
"The president has launched a war on Americans' Second Amendment rights. He has launched a war on religious freedom. He has launched a war on fossil fuels. He is working to nationalize one-sixth of the economy with job-killing ObamaCare. He wants to collect a greater portion of every American paycheck, not for the purpose of paying down the national debt but to expand his governing machine. He doesn't believe in creating a bigger pie with more opportunity for all. He believes in greater redistribution of a much smaller pie."
"The president has so effectively diminished American strength abroad that there is no longer a question of whether this was his intent. He is working to pre-emptively disarm the United States. He advocates slashing our nuclear arsenal even as the North Koreans threaten us and the Iranians close in on their own nuclear weapon. He has turned his back on America's allies around the world and ignored growing threats."
"Al Qaeda is resurgent across the Middle East. President Obama stood by and did nothing when its affiliates in Libya killed the U.S. ambassador and three other brave Americans in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11. Then he and his administration misled the American people about the attack. Today, more than six months later, no one has been held to account."
Etc.....
You use a WSJ opinion piece, which since Murdock bought the WSJ has dominated by right-wing extremists, as a source? Remember, this is the same WSJ editorial board that has been predicting for five-years that due to fiscal and monetary policy, interest rates will skyrocket; the dollar will sink and inflation will run out-of-control. They've been 100% wrong and thus have no credibility. Their opinion on government policy is beyond debatable, it's absurd.
Yeah but republicans wouldn't allow a better plan. For years they had control and not once did they offer a solution to the healthcare mess. Not once. So now you have "Obamacare". It's not perfect and will require some tweaking but at least it's a start. I know you hate it but you should've done something years ago. Republicans reaping what they sow. Or in this case didn't sow.
Can you explain yourself with some evidence? "...wouldn't allow a better plan?". What is this referring to?
Define "healthcare mess". The U.S. has the best Healthcare in the World.
I agreed with you up to this point. Obama is an awful president but he is no Democrat.
When this drivel gets posted you lose credibility. Fail
When morons start talking about how hes the most radical/liberal president blah blah blah
One question how are the rich doing? That should answer everything
Same old tired talking points in this OP/ED and people like you still buy into it sigh
Not who you are talking to, but how is "Obama not a Democrat".
To answer your question. The top 1% have gotten over 121% of the wage increases under Obama. The 99% have had a net loss of income.
You mean what are Obama's accomplishments besides enacting the landmark Obamacare; ending the war in Iraq; winding down the war in Afghanistan; passing Financial Reform legislation that will help prevent a futire meltdown; reversed the trend of 800,000 job losses a month to gains of 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy by 3.5%; rescued the U.S. auto industry; Signed the Democratic-sponsored Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which was designed to to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices; got the upper-income Bush tax-cuts to finally expire, which is partially responsible for turning surpluses into deficits; dismantled the corrupt Minerals Management Service; fashioned rules so that banks can no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests; repealed “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell,” etc., etc.
Besides that, what have the Romans done for us?
I'll give you credit for listing what you see as accomplishments. We can agree to disagree... but at least you have opinions on what he has done and did not just blindly post opinions w/o back up. It is extremely twisted... BUT that is what makes markets I guess.
Republicans were certainly opposed, but you are missing a few key points.
#1 Obama was opposed to the very system put in place during the primary.
#2 Obama passed off the creation of Obamacare to Reid and Pelosi...it should be re-nicknamed Reid-Pelosi-Care. Obama really didn't take a leadership role in the formation of it.
#3 Obama passed Obamacare without Republican support. Not 1 Republican voted for Obamacare in the Senate. Not 1 Republican voted for it in the House. You act as if Obama compromised with Republicans. This is not true. Obama was not a strong enough leader to get his own party on the same page. Obama had the votes to pass the plan he talked about in the primary - if only he were a good enough leader to be able to convince 5/6ths of his own party in congress...but Obama wasn't that good leader.
I never said anything about Obama compromising with anyone. I simply pointed out that because Republicans never cared enough to even make an attempt to remedy the healthcare situation someone else did. Now all I ever hear from the conservatives is how much they hate "Obamacare" and how many "jobs it will kill", etc., etc., etc. Never any mention that it might just help a lot of people who otherwise could not get medical care.
And not to mention the whole "Repeal and replace" fiasco. Replace? With what? The same nothing they were so good at all those years? I feel no pity whatsoever for people who did nothing while people were suffering and now have the b***s to complain about it. They are getting exactly what they deserve.
Can you explain yourself with some evidence? "...wouldn't allow a better plan?". What is this referring to?
Define "healthcare mess". The U.S. has the best Healthcare in the World.
You're joking right? Seriously? You see no problem whatsoever with the way healthcare is delivered in this country? I'll let you in on a little secret: It's not the best system in the world if a vast majority cannot afford it.
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