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Not true at all. The IRS can do whatever Congress tells them to do.
Marital contracts are one of many legal contracts. That's why the law is involved when these are undertaken, and why the law is involved when these are broken. You have a vivid imagination - nothing to do with reality.
Most arguments against gay marriage involve either:
A) Religious views
B) This idea that "traditional marriage" requires a penis and vagina to be present
"A" is the weakest argument. Religion has no place in this discussion at all. Religious institutions can excommunicate their homosexual marrying couples as they see fit. But, they have no business getting involved with those people that are not members of their religious community. Injecting their beliefs on the general population is simply bogus.
"B" is just silly. If an infertile man can marry an infertile woman under the "laws" of traditional marriage, why can't a man marry a man and a woman marry a woman? Traditional marriage does not require the possibility of reproduction. Marriage is about commitment and stability. It is about giving yourself to one other person. Not just sexually, but in every way imaginable - emotionally, financially. None of that requires a penis and vagina to be present.
Marriage covers the general case. When men and women have sex, babies are a possibility. When gays have sex they NEVER a possibility. We don't distinguish between which male/female couples can marry because children are always a possibility when men and women have sex. Dh and I were told we would not be able to have kids the old fashioned way, for example but we ended up with two. For gays, there is never a risk of pregnancy resulting from the union. So the condition which marriage served to protect simply does not exist for gays (past tense because it's really not needed for this purpose anymore so the government is free to bow out at any time). Legally, marriage serves to protect children born of the union. Religiously, it serves whatever purpose the church in question believes it does. Marriage is no longer needed to protect children because we have DNA tests. However, I'm all for gays marrying so they can pay the marriage penalty tax too. The government can use more revanue.
Marriage covers the general case. When men and women have sex, babies are a possibility. When gays have sex they NEVER a possibility. We don't distinguish between which male/female couples can marry because children are always a possibility when men and women have sex. Dh and I were told we would not be able to have kids the old fashioned way, for example but we ended up with two. For gays, there is never a risk of pregnancy resulting from the union. So the condition which marriage served to protect simply does not exist for gays (past tense because it's really not needed for this purpose anymore so the government is free to bow out at any time).
Incorrect. I decided early on that I didn't want kids, but I've been married and will be married this year again. Marriage is a legal contract. It's social and economic. It serves a very good purpose. Kids are incidental, and married people do not have to have kids, the same way that married people do not have to own a sofa, they can own easy chairs instead. If someone wants them, cool beans, and if they don't, fine too (as in my case).
Incorrect. I decided early on that I didn't want kids, but I've been married and will be married this year again. Marriage is a legal contract. It's social and economic. It serves a very good purpose. Kids are incidental, and married people do not have to have kids, the same way that married people do not have to own a sofa, they can own easy chairs instead. If someone wants them, cool beans, and if they don't, fine too (as in my case).
All the benefits derived from being married (and no children) can be handled completely without ever getting married.
Each state decides how property is divided in the event of a breakup of the parties or the death of one of the parties. Check with the State of residency for further information.
Marriage covers the general case. When men and women have sex, babies are a possibility. When gays have sex they NEVER a possibility. We don't distinguish between which male/female couples can marry because children are always a possibility when men and women have sex. Dh and I were told we would not be able to have kids the old fashioned way, for example but we ended up with two. For gays, there is never a risk of pregnancy resulting from the union. So the condition which marriage served to protect simply does not exist for gays (past tense because it's really not needed for this purpose anymore so the government is free to bow out at any time). Legally, marriage serves to protect children born of the union. Religiously, it serves whatever purpose the church in question believes it does. Marriage is no longer needed to protect children because we have DNA tests. However, I'm all for gays marrying so they can pay the marriage penalty tax too. The government can use more revanue.
What about infertile men and women? (Notice the hole in your post?)
That's like her saying: seatbelts are for protecting people when they get in car accidents.
And then you brilliantly reply: Ah, but what about the people who wear seat belts and DON'T get in a car accident?
I am actually for seat belt use, nice try with a strawman argument though.
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