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Just make them similiar to alcohol laws. Even legalalized, people will ruin their lives with drugs...but 100x more with alcohol do the same and we already live with it.
Also would be the single most important item that would strengthen border security. There would never be a story about "armed men" crossing the border. Just be poor migrants.
Say someone is an alcoholic who can't hold down a job but still "needs" to drink, so he robs banks and stores to pay for his habit -- his perfectly legal habit.
Anyone who thinks crime will disappear overnight after legalization is being a bit naive.
Uhhh ever hear of Prohibition? Watch Boardwalk Empire sometime and see how bad crime really was when alcohol was illegal (and in reality was actually worse).
Say someone is an alcoholic who can't hold down a job but still "needs" to drink, so he robs banks and stores to pay for his habit -- his perfectly legal habit.
Anyone who thinks crime will disappear overnight after legalization is being a bit naive.
Well, he's still a criminal. It doesn't matter if he's buying booze or chocolate coated wafers with a chewy caramel centre.
I'm fine with it as long as those who can no longer function in society do not fall back on me to provide for them. Perhaps we can use the money we save fighting the drug war to wall off a part of the desert where we let them go to die.
Alcohol is illegal or almost illegal in many Islamic countries. It does not cause problems per se.
Opium was legal in China for a while, after they lost the opium war to th British. It severely damaged China society and that's why all smugglers are subject to death penalty today.
1) Portugal decriminalized all drugs and drug use did not increase.
2) It would CRUSH the cartels.
3) It's inhumane to punish people for using a substance when they aren't hurting anybody else.
4) The War on Drugs is a failure and a massive waste of taxpayer money.
5) If drugs were cheaper fewer crimes would be committed to obtain them.
I think the government should franchise and regulate dealerships who can supply quality and low priced products for addicts. People with severe addictions should be court mandated into rehab, but it should not go on their criminal record.
I'm not a pro-drug person at all, but I think the only alternative to this would be the status quo, that is allowing the cartels to have a monopoly on drug dealing and continuing to turn drug users into second class citizens and prisoners.
I mean LITERALLY all drugs btw. Coke, meth, smack, esctasy, it doesn't matter.
I agree. All though, meth is some really bad s***!!!! That's the only one I'd have issues with, because not only is it dangerous to the user, but also dangerous to make.
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I'm with you.
It's a medical not criminal problem and part of the revenue's should go to health care.
Yes.
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Say someone is an alcoholic who can't hold down a job but still "needs" to drink, so he robs banks and stores to pay for his habit -- his perfectly legal habit.
Anyone who thinks crime will disappear overnight after legalization is being a bit naive.
Of course it won't. But it would drop quite a bit. We'll always have those who will commit heinous crimes. Let law enforcement focus on that. At any rate, if a violent act is committed. PUNISH THE CRIME!
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Just make them similiar to alcohol laws. Even legalalized, people will ruin their lives with drugs...but 100x more with alcohol do the same and we already live with it.
Also would be the single most important item that would strengthen border security. There would never be a story about "armed men" crossing the border. Just be poor migrants.
Perhaps.
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Uhhh ever hear of Prohibition? Watch Boardwalk Empire sometime and see how bad crime really was when alcohol was illegal (and in reality was actually worse).
Correct. Prohibition only criminalizes otherwise normal people. The government should not tell anyone what they can and cannot consume.
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Well, he's still a criminal. It doesn't matter if he's buying booze or chocolate coated wafers with a chewy caramel centre.
I'm fine with it as long as those who can no longer function in society do not fall back on me to provide for them.
That's exactly what I'm getting at. Once heroin, meth, etc. are legalized, I think it's entirely reasonable to assume that more people will be tempted to try those substances -- and in many cases, even a single use is enough to create a lifelong addiction. Eventually those addicts will be unable to work and will have to resort to welfare and/or crime to support themselves.
And yes, I know that nicotine is addictive and eventually harmful, but it doesn't generally interfere with a person's ability to earn a living.
Bottom line, I still think some drugs -- the most harmful ones -- should continue to be illegal. In fact it's possible that if we do legalize marijuana and other natural substances (mushrooms, etc.) then their use might displace some of the current use of dangerous illegal drugs.
1) Portugal decriminalized all drugs and drug use did not increase.
2) It would CRUSH the cartels.
3) It's inhumane to punish people for using a substance when they aren't hurting anybody else.
4) The War on Drugs is a failure and a massive waste of taxpayer money.
5) If drugs were cheaper fewer crimes would be committed to obtain them.
I think the government should franchise and regulate dealerships who can supply quality and low priced products for addicts. People with severe addictions should be court mandated into rehab, but it should not go on their criminal record.
I'm not a pro-drug person at all, but I think the only alternative to this would be the status quo, that is allowing the cartels to have a monopoly on drug dealing and continuing to turn drug users into second class citizens and prisoners.
I mean LITERALLY all drugs btw. Coke, meth, smack, esctasy, it doesn't matter.
If drugs were outright legalized, you could add two more:
6) Minors would be much less likely to use, or even access, the more dangerous drugs if they are regulated and kept safely behind a counter.
7) Overdoses and misidentification would drop tremendously, as the drugs would have to pass quality and purity inspections. No more instances of someone consuming the wrong mysterious white powder, or side effects from substances used to cut the powder.
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