Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
24,260 posts, read 14,211,524 times
Reputation: 9895

Advertisements

Lawrence V Texas was heard in 2003. They have had a decade to get laws in place that would have covered this situation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
25,826 posts, read 20,710,498 times
Reputation: 14818
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
HEY Pelosi Junior
Read the article that YOU linked before you comment please.

"This case is not about sexual orientation, but using current law to protect a 17 year-old girl from a 47 year-old sexual predator,"
The attorney general is committed to protecting Virginia's children from predators who attempt to exploit them and rob them of their childhood."

Only someone with a twisted agenda would miss this. A very short article and you couldn't handle it?

it's clear that Cuccinelli's position here has absolutely nothing to do with consenting adults or gay rights. It's about a case involving a man pushing 50 and a high school-aged girl. Oh, and the Attorney General's office is siding with an Obama appointee's ruling on the matter.

No, Ken Cuccinelli's Sodomy Law Petition Doesn't Have Anything to do with Gay Rights - Guy Benson
So why wouldn't the laws regarding sexual contact with a minor already cover this?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Deepest Darkest NZ
717 posts, read 648,135 times
Reputation: 446
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Yes, I agree with him. Castration is an appropriate punishment for crimes against nature. Death penalty was too harsh. We are a civilized nation after all.
Homosexuality is NOT a crime against nature as almost all species show homosexual behaviour in some portion of their members. This alone makes it as natural as passing wind.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Michigan
12,711 posts, read 13,481,395 times
Reputation: 4185
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
So why wouldn't the laws regarding sexual contact with a minor already cover this?
Two reasons. One, I think the far-right wing people now making a fuss about this were in denial about the Lawrence decision being final, and didn't feel they needed to act on it. Second, since Virginia's aoc of 18 is older than most states, I don't think there was a groundswell of public demand for these cases to be prosecuted in the fist place. It is a crisis manufactured for the benefit of the politicians.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,640,534 times
Reputation: 14806
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwimac View Post
Homosexuality is NOT a crime against nature as almost all species show homosexual behaviour in some portion of their members. This alone makes it as natural as passing wind.
No, I am sorry but that is incorrect. You might see an female dog "hump" another female dog, but it has nothing to do with homosexuality, and everything to do with announcing who the alpha dog is.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
6,391 posts, read 5,168,625 times
Reputation: 2283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Lawrence v. Texas was in 2003. Is it me, or are Virginia's lawmakers kinda slow?
It's you. Someone who was prosecuted under the sodomy law for sex with a minor is attempting to get it overturned because of the Texas case. That's why it's coming out in the open now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Michigan
12,711 posts, read 13,481,395 times
Reputation: 4185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkatt View Post
It's you. Someone who was prosecuted under the sodomy law for sex with a minor is attempting to get it overturned because of the Texas case. That's why it's coming out in the open now.
The prosecutors should've known not to proceed with prosecutions under an unconstitutional statute.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
6,391 posts, read 5,168,625 times
Reputation: 2283
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
Lawrence V Texas was heard in 2003. They have had a decade to get laws in place that would have covered this situation.
And how would that affect people prosecuted and sentenced under the previous statute, attempting to get that sentencing overturned for a law no longer in place because of the Texas case.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
6,391 posts, read 5,168,625 times
Reputation: 2283
Quote:
Originally Posted by djacques View Post
The prosecutors should've known not to proceed with prosecutions under an unconstitutional statute.
At the time, it wasn't unconstitutional.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 02:09 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,884,155 times
Reputation: 14345
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkatt View Post
It's you. Someone who was prosecuted under the sodomy law for sex with a minor is attempting to get it overturned because of the Texas case. That's why it's coming out in the open now.
No. Virginia should have taken steps to repeal the Unconstitutional Crimes Against Nature law, and replaced it with a law protecting minors. When the Supreme Court says sodomy laws are Unconstitutional, it's up to each state's Attorney General to review the state's laws and let the governor, the legislature, and the people of the state know that their sodomy laws may not be enforceable according to the Supreme Court's ruling. Evidently this was not done. And that's a huge problem for Cucinnelli. He may be able to point fingers at the Republican Attorney General who was in office when the Supreme Court ruled that sodomy laws were Unconstitutional, but the problem is that Virginia didn't prosecute the 47 year old for a law against sodomy with a minor, it prosecuted him for Crimes Against Nature, which was a law against sodomy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:22 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top