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Old 04-05-2013, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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I like how those maps complement each other. If true, it proves that less guns correlate with greater firearms homicides.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I like how those maps complement each other. If true, it proves that less guns correlate with greater firearms homicides.
It proves that guns are not the cause of murder, that is all.

You should look into socioeconomic issues, you might find more coralation.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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Oh yes, that theory is blown to hell because of a teensy little state with a population scattered around the mountains and no cities larger than the average metropolitan 4-block area.

Damn. How could we all have missed that?
Oh look, an anti-gun liberal telling us that we should do an analysis of all of the factors involved.

How ironic.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Gun crime is linked to race and economics I think the Washington Post showed that definitively a few weeks ago. Few Blacks in NH.

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Well well well! Kind of blows gun control theory now doesn't it. Then compare it to Chicago and their gun laws and crime.

CONCORD, N.H. —As the debate over gun control rages in Washington and across the country, a look at New Hampshire's laws shows that the state has a mostly hands-off approach.

The "AR" does not stand for "assault rifle." It is the initials of the company that first made the gun.

To some, the AR-15 looks like a military assault weapon, but the National Shooting Sports Foundation calls it a civilian sporting rifle popular with hunters.

NH has fewer gun-control laws than other states | Special Reports - WMUR Home



Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average

According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, New Hampshire's rate of violent crime in 2011 was 188 per 100,000 people, the third-lowest in the country, behind Maine And Vermont. Only Hawaii had a lower murder rate than the Granite State's 1.3 per 100,000.

Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average | New Hampshire Public Radio




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Old 04-05-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Please quit making these comparisons. Although I'm for some regulation, I am much more pro gun than your average liberal.

The problem with your argument is I can see your New Hampshire, and can raise you New York City.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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The problem with your argument is I can see your New Hampshire, and can raise you New York City.
That does nothing to go against the argument. The argument is not that correlation always exists. The argument is that it doesn't.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:10 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I like how those maps complement each other. If true, it proves that less guns correlate with greater firearms homicides.
Did you look at the same map i did ?

Gun crime statistics by US state: download the data. Visualised | World news | guardian.co.uk


Hawaii has the least guns and the least gun crimes.

Here are the 10 states with the highest gun violence per 100,000


1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Arizona
5. Mississippi
6. South Carolina
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Arkansas
10. Georgia

now here are the highest gun ownership

1. Wyoming - 59.7%
2. Alaska - 57.8%
3. Montana - 57.7%
4. South Dakota - 56.6%
5. West Virginia - 55.4%
6. Mississippi - 55.3%
6. Idaho - 55.3%
6. Arkansas - 55.3%
9. Alabama - 51.7%
10. North Dakota - 50.7%

see the coloration
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:12 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Gun crime is linked to race and economics I think the Washington Post showed that definitively a few weeks ago. Few Blacks in NH.
Guns are linked to economics. It has nothing to do with race, poor white people shoot each other as well.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Strange, I never considered life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to include the ability to shoot someone If you didn't like their looks or thought they looked at you oddly.



What a damn ridiculous thing to say. You liberals are about as ignorant as they come.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:21 AM
 
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So how do you explain the fact that Hawaii, which is ultra-liberal and mostly urban and has strict gun control laws, is even safer than New Hampshire is?
As well as Rhode Island.
The fact is: gun nuts love cherry-picking datas.
Their only and one argument against gun control is comparing Chicago's murder rate with some lightly populated states such as Vermont and Wyoming.
Anyway, what if I compare Hawaii's murder rate with New Orleans and Louisiana's one?
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