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Old 04-09-2013, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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That's how much the US government spends on food per day, per detainee at Gitmo. Detainees are offered up to 4,500 calories per day, including halal lamb.

You would be spending $153.00 for food per day for a family of four.

Military personnel stationed at Gitmo receive hazardous duty pay, the same that US military that serves in Kabul. Read the article about the "hazardous conditions" they are exposed to. The guards are so stressed that massage chairs (3) have been ordered for them.

The annual cost to house captives is $800,000 each for 171 captives.

Among the many benefits the captives get life skills classes, which includes resume writing, in case they ever return home. As if there will be plenty of opportunities back in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, considering most of those being detained were farmers or taxi drivers.

Just how much more "intelligence" can they get from detainees that have been confined for 10 years?

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba: Guantánamo: the most expensive prison on earth - Guantánamo - MiamiHerald.com

Although Obama signed an EO to close Gitmo within one year from the date of the order, he delayed the closing. Now the government has done an aboutface and is looking to spend around $200 million dollars to upgrade Gitmo.

Interview with former Gitmo prison official Ret. Col. Morris Davis. He refers to Gitmo as a money pit.

Guantanamo Bay has become money pit - former prison official ? RT Op-Edge

While sequestration will impact much needed programs, Hotel Gitmo gets an upgrade.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:27 AM
 
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It needs to be closed not upgraded. Obama needs to do so ASAP.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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It needs to be closed not upgraded. Obama needs to do so ASAP.
It was built to be a "temporary" holding center. They weren't thinking decades ahead when building it. It seems it's going to be upgraded to a more permanent structure to last for quite a few decades. I wonder what the plan is??? Import more suspected terrorists? Start rounding up Americans suspected of being terrorists or having knowledge of terrorist activities, to be held indefinitely?
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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That's how much the US government spends on food per day, per detainee at Gitmo. Detainees are offered up to 4,500 calories per day, including halal lamb.

You would be spending $153.00 for food per day for a family of four.

Military personnel stationed at Gitmo receive hazardous duty pay, the same that US military that serves in Kabul. Read the article about the "hazardous conditions" they are exposed to. The guards are so stressed that massage chairs (3) have been ordered for them.

The annual cost to house captives is $800,000 each for 171 captives.

Among the many benefits the captives get life skills classes, which includes resume writing, in case they ever return home. As if there will be plenty of opportunities back in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, considering most of those being detained were farmers or taxi drivers.

Just how much more "intelligence" can they get from detainees that have been confined for 10 years?

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba: Guantánamo: the most expensive prison on earth - Guantánamo - MiamiHerald.com

Although Obama signed an EO to close Gitmo within one year from the date of the order, he delayed the closing. Now the government has done an aboutface and is looking to spend around $200 million dollars to upgrade Gitmo.

Interview with former Gitmo prison official Ret. Col. Morris Davis. He refers to Gitmo as a money pit.

Guantanamo Bay has become money pit - former prison official ? RT Op-Edge

While sequestration will impact much needed programs, Hotel Gitmo gets an upgrade.
Well as you may well know, those prisoners will not eat bologna sandwiches, they would starve if not given the proper foods, and that would be cruel and unusual punishment, and America is better than that.

Islamic dietary laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, if you do a bit of fact checking, congress disapproved funding and other reasons to close GITMO, so, placing blame solely upon Obama isn't exactly honest.

http://www.newser.com/story/110378/t...nt-closed.html

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On January 22, 2009, President Barack Obama signed an order to suspend the proceedings of the Guantanamo military commission for 120 days and to shut down the detention facility within the year.[11][12] On January 29, 2009, a military judge at Guantanamo rejected the White House request in the case of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, creating an unexpected challenge for the administration as it reviewed how the United States brings Guantanamo detainees to trial.[13] On May 20, 2009, the United States Senate passed an amendment to the Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2009 (H.R. 2346) by a 90-6 vote to block funds needed for the transfer or release of prisoners held at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.[14] President Obama issued a Presidential memorandum dated December 15, 2009, ordering Thomson Correctional Center, Thomson, Illinois to be prepared to accept transferred Guantanamo prisoners
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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Also, if you do a bit of fact checking, congress disapproved funding and other reasons to close GITMO, so, placing blame solely upon Obama isn't exactly honest.
You win a cigar. The knee-jerk right wing reaction is to blame Obama for everything.

But anticipate the reaction. If Obama closed Gitmo, the right-wing would claim he is soft on terrorism. If he kept it open, which he did, you get threads like this complaining about how expensive the meals cost -- as if the price of detainee's food is a drain on the government.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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That's how much the US government spends on food per day, per detainee at Gitmo. Detainees are offered up to 4,500 calories per day, including halal lamb.

You would be spending $153.00 for food per day for a family of four.

Military personnel stationed at Gitmo receive hazardous duty pay, the same that US military that serves in Kabul. Read the article about the "hazardous conditions" they are exposed to. The guards are so stressed that massage chairs (3) have been ordered for them.

The annual cost to house captives is $800,000 each for 171 captives.

Among the many benefits the captives get life skills classes, which includes resume writing, in case they ever return home. As if there will be plenty of opportunities back in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, considering most of those being detained were farmers or taxi drivers.

Just how much more "intelligence" can they get from detainees that have been confined for 10 years?

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba: Guantánamo: the most expensive prison on earth - Guantánamo - MiamiHerald.com

Although Obama signed an EO to close Gitmo within one year from the date of the order, he delayed the closing. Now the government has done an aboutface and is looking to spend around $200 million dollars to upgrade Gitmo.

Interview with former Gitmo prison official Ret. Col. Morris Davis. He refers to Gitmo as a money pit.

Guantanamo Bay has become money pit - former prison official ? RT Op-Edge

While sequestration will impact much needed programs, Hotel Gitmo gets an upgrade.
Yes... let's make a big deal about how much we pay to feed an illegally imprisoned population. What kind of amenities would you consider fair trade for being illegally detained for over a decade w/ no prospect of release? "Hotel Gitmo?" I really want to call you an a-hole, but I won't.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:03 AM
 
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If we don't have the goods to convict these guys, then its time to send 'em home. Poop or get off the pot.

I'm not comfortable with indefinite detention by our government. Too banana republic-like for my taste.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Make an announcement that they provided much info and send them home. The problem will take care of itself.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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If only obama stumped as hard to close gitmo as he does trying to remove rights from citizens
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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If we don't have the goods to convict these guys, then its time to send 'em home. Poop or get off the pot.

I'm not comfortable with indefinite detention by our government. Too banana republic-like for my taste.
Please do keep in mind DD that some of those detainees released were found back on the battlefield.

I'm totally against incarceration without due process of law, but I do wished they'd get moving on either proving innocence or guilt, and not detain POW's for a their lifetime, heck, they released Japanese Americans after WWII and didn't hold those people indefinitely.

Blue Eyes has a point, but America can't treat POW's like other nations do, like desecrating bodies, beheading and so forth, we're much better than that.

I do agree with you to a point.
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