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Old 04-23-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Originally Posted by KeyLimePie2015 View Post
Why do animals need to consent, if a person can sign the contract for them? Are you suggesting that animals should have rights? It appears as if this is a moral argument, when it shouldn't be. Why impose your views on those who want to marry their beloved pets?
::sigh::
I have no problem with people having sex or marrying if they're consenting adults. How would an animal give consent in your warped little world? It's like asking why someone can't marry a three year old if the parent signs the contract for them.
Damn!

 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Facepalm.
That tired old bestiality argument again.


Ignores polygamy and incest!
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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So only people who are literate and can write or speak can get married?
Apparently he wants to discriminate against illiterate folks too..

This is one of the reasons why I'm against gay marriage. It opens the door to everything else under the sun. Once you take out the issue of morality and pre established standards, anyone can define what is right for them, and make a claim to be recognized as legally married.

Gays claim to want marriage equality, but they fail to understand that opening up marriage to include two men and two women is nothing more than redefining marriage, because men and women are not the same. Once you redefine marriage and state that there is no moral code that should determine if two men or two women can marry, you open up marriage to include everything and it strays from its original intention.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by KeyLimePie2015 View Post
Again, I'm asking you if you support incestual marriage, polygamy and everything else? If you are for marriage equality, why aren't you for the above marriages???

Please do not use an argument based on right vs wrong or morality. Remember, you don't want that argument used against homosexuals.
I suspect you were previously banned. Is that true?

This question has already been asked and answered. Feel free to add to one of these threads. I don't argue with fools.

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Old 04-23-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by weltschmerz View Post
::sigh::
I have no problem with people having sex or marrying if they're consenting adults. How would an animal give consent in your warped little world? It's like asking why someone can't marry a three year old if the parent signs the contract for them.
Damn!
You don't seem to understand that when morality is not apart of the equation, a person doesn't have any standards to base right vs wrong on, so the "rights" of animals or even children for that matter don't matter.

This is reality.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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People tried that argument in Loving V. Virgina and I don't see people trying to marry their dog.


Really?

Loving v. Virginia
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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I suspect you were previously banned. Is that true?

This question has already been asked and answered. Feel free to add to one of these threads. I don't argue with fools.

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...rriage-do.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...a-why-not.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/relig...-marriage.html
Those are not the same questions and you know it. I'm asking, if you are in support of true marriage equality, why aren't you in supporting of opening up marriage to anyone and everyone who wants to marry?

I find it interesting that you won't answer the question. Why try to deflect?
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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It opens the door to everything else under the sun.
No it doesn't.

And it hasn't, not anywhere it's been legalized.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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They think the more threads they start, the more legitimate their argument is.
Truth of the matter is....foam at the mouth and holler all you want. Same-sex marriage is an unstoppable juggernaut, so if you don't agree with it, get out of the way before it flattens you.
That's it, that's all.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by KeyLimePie2015 View Post
Again, I'm asking you if you support incestual marriage, polygamy and everything else? If you are for marriage equality, why aren't you for the above marriages???

Please do not use an argument based on right vs wrong or morality. Remember, you don't want that argument used against homosexuals.
Depending on how you define "incestual(sic) marriage" because most states allow some degree of interfamily marriage. Where the line is drawn is at the level where the likelihood of birth defects of offspring are the highest (a rather practical cut off point).

As for polygamy, I've never understood the bugaboo about one of the most traditional forms of marriage.

Now when you get to your off the deep end of the pool arguments. They are so self-evidently stupid as to beg a response.
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