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I truly believe we need to keep this process clean.
1) Water board him until sufficient information is obtained.
2) Execute him.
Very simple, very easy.
As for his American citizenship, he was naturalized, not born here. There are certain restrictions like not being able to hold the office of president for one.
If and when illegal aliens eventually obtain citizenship they too will be second tier.
American born is and always will be top tier.
Life is not fair and never will be despite the ones that attempt to level the playing field for continued immigrant migration both legal and illegal.
By the way, how does everyone feel now about better background checking for gun owners seeing that one of these idiots walked up to the SUV the M.I.T. police officer was sitting in and shot him at point blank range.blah blah blah .
both of those liberal obama supporters would have passed any background check currently in place or proposed by the traitors of the obama administration...
Yes, I would not have allowed the police in my home and I would have defended my own property.
Even if you were out of town?
The legal question would be whether or not a search for a terrorist is "reasonable" (4t amendment), and I think the courts would find it reasonable, since they are not there to search your propery because they suspect the owner of something, but to catch a murderer. I think there would be very few people who would complain about such search, but of course there is always someone who will complain about everything.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Do you know what I think is interesting? The fact that the police in the Dohner case shot first and asked questions later, but in this case they actually arrested someone who was more of a terroristic threat.
Actually mirands rights apply to non-citizens as well as ciizens, but the Constitution does not say they must be read to everyone being arrested, that was added to the procedures in 1966
The reason why they are called Miranda rights is from the Supreme Court case MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 U.S. 436 (1966). It doesn't say in the constitution that the police must read you your rights. That requirement is from the Supreme Court interpretation of the Fifth Amendment.
. . . commanding that no person `shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.'"
By the way, how does everyone feel now about better background checking for gun owners seeing that one of these idiots walked up to the SUV the M.I.T. police officer was sitting in and shot him at point blank range.blah blah blah .
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Originally Posted by Bily Lovec
both of those liberal obama supporters would have passed any background check currently in place or proposed by the traitors of the obama administration...
facts are kryptonite to a liberal.
Funny, "facts are kryptonite to a liberal," while you make assertions based upon no facts. How ironic.
Besides, what makes you think you can presume how these people feel about U.S. partisan politics? You may not realize how unpopular Obama is in parts of the Middle East where he has stepped-up drone activity.
It is sad that the government is pushing potential constitutional violations in this case when there is really no need. I think it is just trying to flex its terror legislation muscles to see how far they will go, and this is the perfect case. It is a dangerous game for the government because one change on the Supreme Court could invalidate much of the anti-terror legislation.
How do you suggest ANYONE keep emotion out of it? I have seen pictures of a young man with no legs, have seen parents in torment over losing their 8 year old child, 180 people hurt, a young police officer shot at point blank range..want more? No matter how much emotion is in or out of this whole mess there are NO rights for this guy once the Patriot Act kicks in...too bad for him. All this was his choice. Perhaps you need to find the emotion that will keep this from happening again and stop playing Attorney.
The reason why they are called Miranda rights is from the Supreme Court case MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 U.S. 436 (1966). It doesn't say in the constitution that the police must read you your rights. That requirement is from the Supreme Court interpretation of the Fifth Amendment.
. . . commanding that no person `shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.'"
Correct. It is a common misconception that the police have to read you your Miranda rights or the case will get "thrown out on a technicality". Miranda rights are actually more of a Due Process requirement to safeguard the Fifth Amendment. But the Fifth Amendment only applies to testimonial evidence. So, if the police do not need a confession from you, then there is no reason to Mirandize you, although they do it out procedure now with most suspects. The only legal consequence of not being appraised of your Miranda rights is that the government cannot use a confession or other testimonial evidence against you if that evidence was collected during a custodial interrogation. Still, there was no reason not to read this guy his Miranda rights. But I doubt the government is worried that they will not get a conviction without his testimony. Hell, I am not even sure he will receive a public, civilian trial.
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