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Old 04-20-2013, 07:19 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Same with mass murders such as Jared Loughner or James Holmes. Some humans are simply too dangerous to allow them to exist.
So it would follow then you support taking people's gun rights away in some cases? That rights are not absolute and are subject to interpretation-- or only rights that you feel you won't ever have to exercise?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:21 AM
 
Location: texas
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Oh for gods sakes, he was just arrested yesterday.

Has he been questioned yet? If not, he doesnt need to be mirandized..

And even if he was questioned, if the information isnt going to be used to prosecute, i.e. just obtain information about other actions taking place, then he still doesnt need to be mirandized..

Doesnt anyone here know the law?
which law?

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And even if he was questioned, if the information isnt going to be used to prosecute
What federal statute or constitutional right is the above comment based on?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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They did not shoot him in the head, thats more right than he deserved.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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Being a Muslim is incompatible with being an American citizen.

Sorry folks, the diversity you feel towards Muslims will never work.

We should deport him and his entire family to where they came from because if you insist on trying him it will take 8,451 years in the court system and cost $569 trillion dollars.
He is a us citizen. Being muslim has nothing to with it.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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Then you're insane and don't have the mental capacity to own firearms.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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which law?

What federal statute or constitutional right is the above comment based on?
Its been this way forever..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning

The Miranda warning is part of a preventive criminal procedure rule that law enforcement is required to administer to protect an individual who is in custody and subject to direct questioning or its functional equivalent from a violation of his or her Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination

If the information is NOT going to be used against him, then the miranda warnings dont need read to him.

they may interrogate that person and act upon the knowledge gained, but may not use that person's statements to incriminate him or her in a criminal trial.

This isnt tv folks.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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He IS an American citizen and has the same rights as ALL American citizens.

If he were NOT a citizen, I couldn't care less what they do with him.

The constitution giveth and the constitution taketh away.
Bhwaaaa, ha, ha, ha, too funny! Quite sure you were ready with a phony outrage thread whether he was Mirandized or not. Note the topic line including "Bomber" -- as opposed to "Suspect", yet opens thread declaring an absence of due process. Just too funny, oh, and did I mention, transparent?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: texas
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They did not shoot him in the head, thats more right than he deserved.
Would you like to excersize your 2nd amendment right and do the Honors...?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:30 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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So it would follow then you support taking people's gun rights away in some cases? That rights are not absolute and are subject to interpretation-- or only rights that you feel you won't ever have to exercise?
Rights are absolute until such point where behavior to justify their abrogation occurs. Gun rights should not (and do not) exist for criminals or the mentally deficient. Criminal behavior, depending on the degree, can and should result in elimination of rights, up to and including the right to life.

Are you saying that a right which starts as absolute for a US citizen at birth should remain absolute in all cases? Should convicts in prison have the right to guns? To associate freely (including with those outside prison)? To travel freely? To pursue happiness?

Just for the record, I'm also against what the Constitution bans under the guise of cruel and unusual punishment. I'd look at it more as "creative justice". I'm an eye-for-an-eye type of thinker.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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How was your determination of.."[p]roves a strong hatred and war againt not just citizens but against America..." made?
By selecting the Boston Marathon on Patriot's Day as the occasion to target a mass murder of American citizens. The words "hate crime" come into play when it's a minority or gays who are targeted. Seems like the definition applies here when the victims are categorized.
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