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Lets get this staight... men who are hetrosexuals are attracted to young boys.. no, that makes them a homosexual or versatile..have sex with any one regardless of gender.
"While it is a commonly held belief that men who prefer men as adult sex partners molest boys and men who prefer women as adult sex partners molest girls, our study results suggest something different.
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The 1,038 men who molested boys reported a range of adult sexual preferences. Contrary to popular belief, only 8 percent reported that they were exclusively homosexual in their adult preferences.
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Very true, Jesus taught people not to judge, but did he not tell those that he didn't agree with not to partake in certain actions?
He called the 'fundamentalists' of his day:
Hypocrites! Blind Guides! Pit of Vipers! (Matthew 23).
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If we are going to talk about what Jesus said, let's talk about it, and not shorten the message to fit whatever agenda we may have.
John 13:34-35
“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
“By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
Mark 12:28-31
"The second is this, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Romans 13:8-10
Let, no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet", and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
1 John 4:18:
Jesus said: "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. We love, because He first loved us.
1 John 4:16-21
God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. We love, because He first loved us.
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.
Something that I've never understood when it comes to these people who have such a problem with gay folks, is they all seem to think that gay people do nothing but think about sex all day every day. As if there is no other aspect to their lives at all. Not to mention that they don't seem to think gay people have any boundaries when it comes to sex, as if being gay and being a pedophile are somehow one and the same. So if a gay person wants to join the boy scouts, well obviously it's because they're looking for a breeding ground to have sex with young boys. If they walk down street holding hands, then they're trying to force you to watch them have gay sex. If they want to be a teacher, then they want to teach your kids about gay sex. Everything they do, everything they are, their every motive is supposedly based in sex. I've even heard people go as far as saying that those behind the gay agenda (whatever the hell that is) won't be satisfied until everybody is gay. They actually believe this foolishness!
These people need to understand that a gay person's life isn't driven by sex anymore than a straight person's life is. So if you're straight, is every minute of your day consumed with thinking about sex? Don't you have work, hobbies, friends, family, bills to pay, laundry to do, the car to wash, the dog to walk, and any other myriad things that occupy your time that have absolutely nothing to do with sex? Well, guess what...the same is true for gay folks! They are multi-faceted human beings just like the rest of us. To think that they do nothing but sit around all day and plot ways to have sex with anybody of the same gender is beyond ignorant, and it says a lot more about you and your lack of knowledge than it does about gay people.
Each person is an individual. Just as you have a right to express your beliefs, others have a right to do so too. It doesn't matter if you agree with them or not, they still have that right.
Is he (and others) hateful bigots because they speak out against homosexuality? If you believe so, you're being very judgmental against those with opposing views. Individuals are never going to always agree.
Also to date, there are no definitive studies which prove a direct biological homosexual gene. Should I then just take your word for it, that one is born a homosexual without any definitive proof of a homosexual gene?
No such thing as a single gay gene. Human sexuality is far too complex for one gene. This might catch you up a little.
"Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment."
“…the current literature and most scholars in the field state that one’s sexual orientation is not a choice; that is, individuals do not choose to be homosexual or heterosexual.”
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.
There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.
"Epigenetics – how gene expression is regulated by temporary switches, called epi-marks – appears to be a critical and overlooked factor contributing to the long-standing puzzle of why homosexuality occurs". In the current study, researchers... integrated evolutionary theory with recent advances in the molecular regulation of gene expression and androgen-dependent sexual development to produce a biological and mathematical model that delineates the role of epigenetics in homosexuality" (2012) http://www.sciencenewsline.com/artic...116360019.html
The scans reveal that in gay people, key structures of the brain governing emotion, mood, anxiety and aggressiveness resemble those in straight people of the opposite sex.
"This is the most robust measure so far of cerebral differences between homosexual and heterosexual subjects," she says.
Previous studies have also shown differences inbrain architecture and activity between gay and straight people, but most relied on people's responses to sexuality driven cues that could have been learned, such as rating the attractiveness of male or female faces.
To get round this, Savic and her colleague, Per Lindström, chose to measure brain parameters likely to have been fixed at birth.
"That was the whole point of the study, to show parameters that differ, but which couldn't be altered by learning or cognitive processes," says Savic.
"This study demonstrates that homosexuals of both sexes show strong cross-sex shifts in brain symmetry," says Qazi Rahman, a leading researcher on sexual orientation at Queen Mary college, University of London, UK.
"The connectivity differences reported in the amygdala are striking."
"Paradoxically, it's more informative to look at things that have no direct connection with sexual orientation, and that's where this study scores," says Simon LeVay, a prominent US author who in 1991 reported finding differences(pdf) in a part of the brain called the hypothalamus between straight and gay men.
"There's a converging line of evidence between the hormonal studies, the genetic studies , and the neuroanatomical studies. My research has identified candidate genes within these new chromosomal regions that could link together all of these different findings”
Several studies report that the cognitive performance of gay males is more typical of heterosexual females than heterosexual males.
Furthermore, the brain waves of gay males while performing verbal and spatial tasks are more similar to heterosexual females than males or significantly different from both."
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Whether you care to acknowledge this truth or not, gays have built an identity around their sexual orientation. I am not suggesting that most gay people only think about sex, but let's be honest, sexual identity is always at the forefront of the discussion, with most gays.
Considering that the majority of your posts on these forums have been on gay related threads, perhaps you might like to ask yourself whose "sexual identity is at the forefront of your discussions". Because gay ones seem to be at the forefront of yours. Your style seems awfully familiar as well. It will come to me eventually.
Are you seriously that oblivious to your own 'advertising' of your sexual orientation and relationships?
I hear heterosexuals talking about their relationships all the time.
I hear songs about heterosexual relationships on every radio station.
I see movies, tv ads, music videos about heterosexual relationships.
There are gazillions of books about heterosexual relationships.
You just don't notice because you are heterosexual and you expect everyone to be heterosexual.
You ask a woman you've recently met "Are you married?"
She replies: "Yes, my husband's name is John and we have 3 kids".
You ask a woman you've recently met "Are you married?"
She replies: "Yes, I have a wife. Her name is Susan and we have 3 kids."
Same questions, same answers. But one of them stands out to you.
Are either of them rubbing their sexual lives in your face or putting their sexual identity at the forefront of the conversation any more than the other? No. It's just your perception.
The BSA is a case in point. The organization never stated that gay boys could not be scouts, but they did ask that sexual orientation not be discussed, kind of like a "don't ask, don't tell policy." Many Homosexuals however, took issue with this. You can agree or disagree with their position, but the point is, they made their sexual identity the defining characteristic. It became the central issue when they told BSA that they did not want to abide by policies akin to don't ask, don't tell.
Human beings are social animals. We discuss relationships with others every day. We notice the relationships of others every day. If it makes you uncomfortable that gay and lesbian people might want to mention their husband, boyfriend, wife, girlfriend, partner, kids etc in the exact same way that heterosexuals do, that's your problem. They aren't making their sexual identities the 'defining characteristic' any more than straight people do. You just notice it more because it's different to you.
If you are a minority and you don't like the norms of the majority, create your own clubs, and organizations so that you can co-exist with like minded people. I'll never understand why people want to belong to organizations or groups that don't want them. Rejection hurts, but it's a fact of life. It's far better to develop your own than to beg others to let you in.
The anti-gay 'bigots' are starting to be in the minority. Look at this thread for example. The anti-gay posters are a couple of far right religious lunatics mumbling incoherently about Santa and demonic possessions and making threats, an obnoxious sexist who posts like a 13 year old, and.... yourself. Great company to be in yeah?
I know about bath houses and glory holes as well, and I'm not gay. I don't think there is anything wrong with people researching a particular topic. If anything, people should be aware of a given issue, before they comment on it.
And I know about kinky Christians and their bondage and discipline spanking fetishes and I'm not a Christian.
Nothing wrong with researching that particular topic is there?
Now if I was to try to use this as a stereotype of all Christians, that would be a tad dishonest wouldn't it?
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Actually I was revolted by the sexism and themes of male dominance and entitlement as it is the sort of crap behind men believing it's their 'god given' right to control and batter women
You must have not been involved in scouts in a while. Every scout campout is required to have an EMT and a fire safety professional. We also never have any adult with children alone at any time. Adults are not allowed in the showers with any child unless there is an emergency. Adults are not allowed into a tent with any child that is not their own.
The kids are required to travel in pairs at all times.
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Two-deep leadership on all outings required. Two registered adult leaders, or one registered leader and a parent of a participating Scout or other adult, one of whom must be 21 years of age or older, are required for all trips and outings. There are a few instances, such as patrol activities, when the presence of adult leaders is not required and adult leadership may be limited to training and guidance of the patrol leadership. With the proper training, guidance, and approval by the troop leaders, the patrol can conduct day hikes and service projects. Appropriate adult leadership must be present for all overnight Scouting activities; coed overnight activities—even those including parent and child—require male and female adult leaders, both of whom must be 21 years of age or older, and one of whom must be a registered member of the BSA. The chartered organization is responsible for ensuring that sufficient leadership is provided for all activities.
One-on-one contact between adults and Scouts prohibited. One-on-one contact between adults and youth members is not permitted. In situations that require personal conferences, such as a Scoutmaster’s conference, the meeting is to be conducted in view of other adults and youths.
Separate accommodations for adults and Scouts required. When camping, no youth is permitted to sleep in the tent of an adult other than his or her own parent or guardian. Councils are strongly encouraged to have separate shower and latrine facilities for females. When separate facilities are not available, separate times for male and female use should be scheduled and posted for showers. Likewise, youth and adults must shower at different times.
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Your style seems awfully familiar as well. It will come to me eventually.
