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786. The fault of Muslims are many - very many. There is great problems in the Muslim world, the people (leadership) are not doing justice to Islam and are far removed from it. The fault of Islam is none - Islamic theological orthodoxy and jurisprudence is tremendously broad and flexible and the weight of classical scholarship supports this position.
Those two guys did wrong. Many major scholars such as Prof. Tariq Qardi has declared those who commit violence against innocents to be removed from Islam. The point is the extremist ideology really is a fringe Wahabbist one.
Nothing of the sort. The comparison rings hollow. The conflict in Northern Ireland is arguably more political than religious. Radical Islam, really Islam, simply wants dominion over the world or a large swath of the world. In order for that to happen the Great Satan (America) needs to crumble since it is realistically the only thing standing in its way. America falls, Israel vanishes the Middle East through North Africa is theirs. Attention can then focus to the West. With millions of Muslims already resident in Europe the task shouldn't be too difficult but who knows maybe by then the Europeans would have regained a backbone.
The Muslims really are still smarting over being kicked out Spain (by a woman no less) and being turned back at Vienna.
I still haven't figured how China figures into their plans but my guess is they feel they can deal with them. Russia will probably cede it's Muslim territories. The Hindus of India will put up a good fight, ironically they are one of the few people I've encountered who have no illusions about what Islam is a religion bent on conquest.
Paranoid much?
The Muslim world doesn't want to conquer anyone. It just wants to be left alone, without external powers messing in their business.
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The Hindus of India will put up a good fight
Sure they will.
India is justifiably Muslim land. We ruled it for centuries and it is legitimately within the boundaries of any Islamically defined land. At least North India. Who the hell would want the Southern bit? The British ruined our fun.
786. The fault of Muslims are many - very many. There is great problems in the Muslim world, the people (leadership) are not doing justice to Islam and are far removed from it. The fault of Islam is none - Islamic theological orthodoxy and jurisprudence is tremendously broad and flexible and the weight of classical scholarship supports this position.
Those two guys did wrong. Many major scholars such as Prof. Tariq Qardi has declared those who commit violence against innocents to be removed from Islam. The point is the extremist ideology really is a fringe Wahabbist one.
BS since Islam was founded through violence. Mohammad wasn't preaching to fishermen but soldiers and he led them to battle.
The Muslim world doesn't want to conquer anyone. It just wants to be left alone, without external powers messing in their business.
Sure they will.
India is justifiably Muslim land. We ruled it for centuries and it is legitimately within the boundaries of any Islamically defined land. At least North India. Who the hell would want the Southern bit? The British ruined our fun.
LOL justifiable Muslim lands? You mean because of some invasions around 1100AD? Hindus predate the Muslim invasion by what 3000 years. Thank God for the British scattering the Muslim overlords of India.
The Muslim world doesn't want to conquer anyone. It just wants to be left alone, without external powers messing in their business.
Sure they will.
India is justifiably Muslim land. We ruled it for centuries and it is legitimately within the boundaries of any Islamically defined land. At least North India. Who the hell would want the Southern bit? The British ruined our fun.
True it's conquering days are somewhat over but it doesn't want to be left alone. It wants to control and dominate anything and everyone in its path.
Swings of time my friend. I ask you not to opine without knowledge. Go read a book about the Prophet - I suggest the one by Martin Lings.
As for India, dont be silly. What is 70 years in historic terms? Even 200 years is a blip in time?
India is naturally ours. We are the natural and ordained Masters of all of Central and South Asia. Such set ups will return. 1100 AD? HH Mohammed Bin Qasim liberated Sind from the idol worshippers in the 8th century.
No one seeks Latin America or Europe for instance, but what is ours is ours. For many centuries India had a natural society. Us on top and the others as servants. Good times.
Swings of time my friend. I ask you not to opine without knowledge. Go read a book about the Prophet - I suggest the one by Martin Lings.
As for India, dont be silly. What is 70 years in historic terms? Even 200 years is a blip in time?
India is naturally ours. We are the natural and ordained Masters of all of Central and South Asia. Such set ups will return. 1100 AD? HH Mohammed Bin Qasim liberated Sind from the idol worshippers in the 8th century.
I'll say one thing you're the type of Muslim I like. I respect honesty.
No one seeks Latin America or Europe for instance, but what is ours is ours. For many centuries India had a natural society. Us on top and the others as servants. Good times.
Oh you guys want Europe especially Spain still smarting over being kicked out by a woman. Nobody cares about Latin America much.
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The British ruined our fun. 
