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Old 04-25-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Should we let illegal aliens who broke our laws, stay in the country; while keeping out legal visa applicants who respected and obeyed our laws, filled out all the proper forms, and have been waiting patiently in their home countries for permission to enter?

I'd say it would be better to accept the second group, not the first. Don't you think?

Why or Earth would we want to take in people whose only qualification is that they happily broke our laws???

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Old 04-25-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Should we let illegal aliens who broke our laws, stay in the country; while keeping out legal visa applicants who respected and obeyed our laws, filled out all the proper forms, and have been waiting patiently in their home countries for permission to enter?

I'd say it would be better to let the second group in, not the first group. Don't you think?

Why or Earth would we want to take in people whose only qualification is that they already broke our laws???
A complex issue like this is not fit for a black and white mind. Your post reads like a child asking why this or that is so in Calculus.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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A complex issue like this is not fit for a black and white mind. Your post reads like a child asking why this or that is so in Calculus.
Sorry but our immigration laws aren't black, white or gray. They are very clear.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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A complex issue like this is not fit for a black and white mind. Your post reads like a child asking why this or that is so in Calculus.
It's typical of big-govt fanatics when backed into a corner, to pretend the issue is "complex" with side issues that are "important" when they're not, and/or they're and not easy for the little people to understand. Instead of admitting that the issue is so clear that there is only one possible answer.

BTW, I've been explaining calculus to children for years.

One of the reasons it's not hard to do, is because the issues are clear, side issues are irrelevant and there is only one possible answer.

Illegal-alien supporters have been trying for years, to avoid mentioning the most obvious fact: Their schemes reward lawbreakers while punishing law-abiders. For this reason their schemes are completely unacceptable.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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It's typical of big-govt fanatics when backed into a corner, to pretend the issue is "complex" with side issues that are "important" when they're not, and/or they're and not easy for the little people to understand. Instead of admitting that the issue is so clear that there is only one possible answer.

BTW, I've been explaining calculus to children for years.

One of the reasons it's not hard to do, is because the issues are clear, side issues are irrelevant and there is only one possible answer.

Illegal-alien supporters have been trying for years, to avoid mentioning the most obvious fact: Their schemes reward lawbreakers while punishing law-abiders. For this reason their schemes are completely unacceptable.

I think it is more of some posters being thoughtful.

For instance, the case of an infant brought illegally into this country. Are you including that group? I do not consider an 'infant' as being capable of breaking the law. Immigration specialists can list lots of such examples that do not fit neatly into your mindset.

Same for those whom apply for legal immigration. I believe we have quotas, such as the number of those who may immigrate from such-and-such a country, to quotas on the number of certain types of professional immigrants allowed in (doctors, etc). I believe that the various organizations in this country (AMA for example) has lobbyist that want to limit the number of medical doctors from, say, India, although we have a doctor shortage in this country.

I certainly do not have 'answers'. However, I do know that simplified questions such as yours really cannot be answered in a bumper-sticker manner, save by others of your mindset.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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Ask the Founding Fathers what they taught about blind obedience to the Law, especially bad ones.

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Originally Posted by The Declaration of Independence
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Is this over some specific event or is this just a hypothetical question? I am curious who the visa applicants who respect and obey the law, but aren't allowed in the country that you are referring to.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I say we do a straight swap:

For everyone deported that has been living here illegally, we let in one who is patiently waiting in line to get in as a thank you.


Solves the "you're a racist xenophobe" accusation at least.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Should we let illegal aliens who broke our laws, stay in the country; while keeping out legal visa applicants who respected and obeyed our laws, filled out all the proper forms, and have been waiting patiently in their home countries for permission to enter?

I'd say it would be better to accept the second group, not the first. Don't you think?

Why or Earth would we want to take in people whose only qualification is that they happily broke our laws???
They will all stay, after all democrats have to buy all the votes they can.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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I say we do a straight swap:

For everyone deported that has been living here illegally, we let in one who is patiently waiting in line to get in as a thank you.


Solves the "you're a racist xenophobe" accusation at least.
I so agree with you. Yep, how would the left, liberals and ethnocentrics be able to put those false labels on us then?
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