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Old 04-29-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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This is the result of austerity, Folks. It's a fraud.
Euro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have a shared currency where they agreed to certain deficit goals.

In short, you are like the roomate that doesn't want to pay their share of the rent because that would cut into your beer money and you'd get cranky.

Your solution appears to be to just kick Spain out of the EU and let them suffer complete economic collapse. Hey, those old folks can always just sell cigarettes in the street and eat catfood when your policies destroy their pensions.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Agreed-

All given to you through the gift of liberalism-

1. NAFTA
2. China most favored nation trade status
3. open door immigraion, driving down wages
4. too many "liberal arts" grad and not enough engineers and scientists
5. high corporate taxes
6. regulatory burdens via the EPA
7. Obamacare
8. Class action suits via the trial lawyers association

Liberalism is the fast track to third world status.
Agree with most, but corporate taxes are if anything, way too low and the EPA burden is also insufficient. Up until the 1960s, corporations paid 2/3 of taxes, by the 2000s 2/3 were paid by individuals, primarily in the middle-to-upper classes. As for the EPA, there are still too many outdated plants spewing pollution into the environment, and the acid rain that continues to fall throughout the country is still a problem. I'd also increase anti-trust efforts considerably and break up most of the telecoms and the cable TV companies. The gap in quality of product they provide as compared to other nations like south korea is astounding.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Euro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have a shared currency where they agreed to certain deficit goals.

In short, you are like the roomate that doesn't want to pay their share of the rent because that would cut into your beer money and you'd get cranky.

Your solution appears to be to just kick Spain out of the EU and let them suffer complete economic collapse. Hey, those old folks can always just sell cigarettes in the street and eat catfood when your policies destroy their pensions.

It needs to leave the Euro.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Francoist Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Need a strong man to straighten things out.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Bothell, Washington
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has anyone noticed a correlation between economic prosperity and social customs? Typically in Spain, Greece, many Latin American countries, is the concept of a leisurely lunch, and long siesta after lunch. That is not the norm in Germany, or the United States.

This is the outcome.
Very true. And also Spain was never an economic power house, never a country of big industry, so they have never had strengths to build on when economic problems arose. So you combine that with what you mentioned above, with the slower/lower work pace/ethic and you have the problems that they are having.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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It needs to leave the Euro.
Ever seen a banknote for $100trillion?

It's in the Zimbabwe article in this months National Geographic.

You can carp all you want about the Euro and austerity but that's where Spain is heading if they don't pare their spending.

Pick whom you want to be the winner and whom is to be the loser? The old? The young? Shared pain?

Your plan is going to wreck any of the poorer old. The rich old people still have hard assets in the form of property.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Youth unemployment is a global reality.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Capital Hill
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This is the result of austerity, Folks. It's a fraud.


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And to think, my daughter and son-in-law will be vacationing in Spain next week, in the mountainous Basque region and down to Barcelona. I hope the will be safe!
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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And to think, my daughter and son-in-law will be vacationing in Spain next week, in the mountainous Basque region and down to Barcelona. I hope the will be safe!
In Barcelona there will be more risk from pickpockets than anything else.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This is the result of austerity, Folks. It's a fraud.
Oh, come on, now...

Just because all this austerity failed miserably in Europe over the past five years is no reason for the GOP to stop bellowing about how we should do the same thing here.
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