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Old 04-29-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
we do the fascist liberals deny science...because they want to tax it


NOT ONE scientist has proven MANMADE global warming

the globe evolves..the global enviroment changes..periodicly...there have been WARMER TIMES..there have been cooler times..there have been times when C02 was MUCH, MUCH higher

science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2

science shows that greenery (plantlife) uses co2 and expeles o2

science shows that co2 levels have been 3 times HIGHER than they are today, in the past (ie the co2 325 of today is is much lower than the 750-10000 that co2 levels were 100,000 years ago

science shows us that the earth has warmed AND cooled many times

science shows us that ANTARTICA was once a lush furtile land, not covered in ice

science shows us that greenland was once a green lush furtile land, not covered with ice

science shows us that GLACIERS created many of the geographical features that we look at today (ie Long Island was made by the lower reaching of graciers, the great lakes were created by glaciers, the grand canyon was created by glacial melting)

science shows us that plants would grow much better, and use less water if the co2 was HIGHER...around 700-1500ppm compared to the current 320ppm


The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research (SCIENCE) demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.Plants under effective CO2 enrichment and management display thicker, lush green leaves, an abundance of fragrant fruit and flowers, and stronger, more vigorous roots. CO2 enriched plants grow rapidly and must also be supplied with the other five "essential elements" to ensure proper development and a plentiful harvest.



science shows As CO2 is a critical component of growth, plants in environments with inadequate CO2 levels - below 225 ppm - will cease to grow or produce.

SCIENCE shows that plants exposed to elevated CO2 concentrations are likely to lose less water via transpiration



common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.............yet the global warming liberals only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it


why do liberals DENY science???...because with the science they cant get their TAX..so they manipulate the science
Thanks for stating a bunch of things that don't have anything to do with the topic and try to pretend liberals don't believe in science. I agree with everything you stated that is science, though there are a few things on the list that I don't know specifically because I have never really invested much interest in the study of plant life. manmade CO2 is something man creates and something man can tax.

The thing I find funny is that while Global Warming Denyers will ignore science because they disagree with it, yet don't understand that the most important thing is to make sure our water is clean to drink and our food is healthy to eat and our air is clean to breathe, the three factors we need to keep our species alive which should be our number one priority.

 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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and yet the only thing liberals scream about is """""man made"""" so they can come up with a tax on it


yes there is gloabal climate change...global warming and global cooling...and it has happened MANY, MANY, MANY times over the eons
Actually manmade CO2 is what we actually have control of in this world and it makes sense for us to want to make sure we have clean water, clean air, and safe food to eat.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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Thanks for stating a bunch of things that don't have anything to do with the topic and try to pretend liberals don't believe in science. I agree with everything you stated that is science, though there are a few things on the list that I don't know specifically because I have never really invested much interest in the study of plant life. manmade CO2 is something man creates and something man can tax.

The thing I find funny is that while Global Warming Denyers will ignore science because they disagree with it, yet don't understand that the most important thing is to make sure our water is clean to drink and our food is healthy to eat and our air is clean to breathe, the three factors we need to keep our species alive which should be our number one priority.
To do that, you stop the things that cause it, not tax it.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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To do that, you stop the things that cause it, not tax it.
Oh yeah, love to hear the Cons freak out when the word "ban" starts getting bounced around instead of "tax."
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: WA
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Wow.

It would help if you had actually READ scientific research on the topic:
UW-Madison Researchers: Human Impact of the last 8,000 years forestalling impending Ice Age

From über liberal UW-Madison, no less.
Lolz, that article supports human induced climate change. They suggest it began with our large scale deforestation. Cool article, thanks!


Don't stop, you guys are hilarious!
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:22 PM
 
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Oh yeah, love to hear the Cons freak out when the word "ban" starts getting bounced around instead of "tax."
Seems to me that it is you that is arguing against stopping the pollutants.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: WA
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Also, does anyone know what "expele" means?
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wow.

It would help if you had actually READ scientific research on the topic:
UW-Madison Researchers: Human Impact of the last 8,000 years forestalling impending Ice Age

From über liberal UW-Madison, no less.
Did YOU read your link?

"What's more, according to the same computer simulations, the cumulative effect of thousands of years of human influence on climate is preventing the world from entering a new glacial age, altering a clockwork rhythm of periodic cooling of the planet that extends back more than a million years."

 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Did YOU read your link?

"What's more, according to the same computer simulations, the cumulative effect of thousands of years of human influence on climate is preventing the world from entering a new glacial age, altering a clockwork rhythm of periodic cooling of the planet that extends back more than a million years."

The argument is that any influence we had was a good thing. If it's a good thing, why would we want to stop it?
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:28 PM
 
Location: WA
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The argument is that any influence we had was a good thing. If it's a good thing, why would we want to stop it?
If that's the level of your reading comprehension skills, then your beliefs make much more sense.
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