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Old 04-30-2013, 09:45 PM
 
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Gay black men are more at risk than gay white men because of the higher stigma against homosexuality in the black community. More have to hide their orientation, and any time people have to keep their sexuality secret, their risk of HIV goes up. They are unlikely to be tested and start treatment, for example, which makes them more likely to transmit the virus to other, probably also closeted, partners.

It is very simple really. Removing the stigma of homosexuality prevents the spread of HIV. This is well known in the public health community.

Sorry to see you are on the wrong side of public health and would prefer that gay men would just go away.
Anytime someone doesn't respect themselves or their bodies their risk goes up.

You still don't address anything about how the culture pushes sexuality of any kind is damaging. This includes views on heterosexuality where the culture pushes sex as far removed from marriage as possible which has contributed to the over 70% of illegitimacy in the black community. And in the white community, the numbers have even surpassed the growing numbers of concern in the black community 50 years ago.

And homosexual men in general are whopping 44x more likely to contract HIV, Sphyllis, etc regardless of color.

This is a national health epidemic with those rates that's again even worse than smoking, obesity, or any other risk factor combined in terms of increasing someone's risk of a disease.

Yet this is swept under the rug all for the name of pushing an agenda. People are oblivious to the fact that this agenda is hurting the people they actually claim they want to help

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Old 04-30-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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This path usually winds up with...I don't care its my life and I will spread disease if I want to. Theres no common sense or morals at all in this gay world.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:48 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I would also guess that the white men in that study had more formal education and were more economically stable than their black counterparts...as is the case in the general population.

We know this folks: education, economic stability and a great support system tend to produce healthy individuals who are accepting and lead better lives regardless of race, religion, etc.

So here's a hint...quit stigmatizing, hating, and discriminating against people you don't like. You're just spreading misery.
Well said. Thank you.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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I would also guess that the white men in that study had more formal education and were more economically stable than their black counterparts...as is the case in the general population.

We know this folks: education, economic stability and a great support system tend to produce healthy individuals who are accepting and lead better lives regardless of race, religion, etc.

So here's a hint...quit stigmatizing, hating, and discriminating against people you don't like. You're just spreading misery.
True hate is lying to someone who is participating in physically or socioeconomically damaging behavior and trying to appease them just for the sake of appeasing them

Does a parent not have to discipline their child when they are wrong? Does a good friend not try to correct a friend instead of being a "yes man" when their friend is making poor decisions?

But again because this is wrapped in the bow of a civil rights issue, people are going to ignore all the negative effects of how sexuality is pushed by the culture today in both the cases of heterosexuality and homosexuality

And for what? All because of their disdain for traditional values in those departments even though study after study shows that people are better off under those system of values.


Instead all people have is insults and contrived excuses to dismiss the clear cut data. I guess somehow the NIH, CDC, etc all are in it to get people of different systems of values
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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True hate is lying to someone who is participating in physically or socioeconomically damaging behavior and trying to appease them just for the sake of appeasing them

Does a parent not have to discipline their child when they are wrong? Does a good friend not try to correct a friend instead of being a "yes man" when their friend is making poor decisions?

But again because this is wrapped in the bow of a civil rights issue, people are going to ignore all the negative effects of how sexuality is pushed by the culture today in both the cases of heterosexuality and homosexuality

And for what? All because of their disdain for traditional values in those departments even though study after study shows that people are better off under those system of values.


Instead all people have is insults and contrived excuses to dismiss the clear cut data. I guess somehow the NIH, CDC, etc all are in it to get people of different systems of values
People are better off in monogamous relationships. Doesn't matter if they are hetero or homo. Your smoke screen is thin.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Anytime someone doesn't respect themselves or their bodies their risk goes up.

You still don't address anything about how the culture pushes sexuality of any kind is damaging. This includes views on heterosexuality where the culture pushes sex as far removed from marriage as possible which has contributed to the over 70% of illegitimacy in the black community

And homosexual men in general are whopping 44x more likely to contract HIV, Sphyllis, etc regardless of color.

This is a national health epidemic with those rates that's again even worse than smoking, obesity, or any other risk factor combined in terms of increasing someone's risk of a disease.

Yet this is swept under the rug all for the name of pushing an agenda. People are oblivious to the fact that this agenda is hurting the people they actually claim they want to help

It's a dishonest approach at worst...at best you're being obtuse.

When a group is stigmatized, demonized, and threatened (physically, verbally etc) they are less likely to receive/seek out help for issues that relate to their so-called lesser status.

It's why gay teens commit suicide. It's why gays have higher rates of those STDs.

Sex is a tough enough subject in the straight world. Suicide too. Then haters make gays more uncomfortable. Well yeah, they are going to struggle to find resources and support in that kind of climate.

Sooooo...get out of their way.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So has this ruined pro sports yet?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:03 PM
 
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People are better off in monogamous relationships. Doesn't matter if they are hetero or homo. Your smoke screen is thin.
Children are better off in families where they grow up with their biological parents

There are exceptions to this rule, just like there are exceptions to the rule of smokers vs non-smokers

The thin smoke screen (no pun intended) is on those who show ZERO concern for these high rates of disease in the gay community, they show ZERO concern for these rising rates of illegitimacy in the heterosexual community, yet they promote these rebellious lifestyles all day long while demonizing the traditional family

And your monogamous homosexual relationships don't fit the bill for that biological parent role nor do they compare to the exponentially lower risk of the ridiculed abstinence and traditional marriage
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:06 PM
 
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It's a dishonest approach at worst...at best you're being obtuse.

When a group is stigmatized, demonized, and threatened (physically, verbally etc) they are less likely to receive/seek out help for issues that relate to their so-called lesser status.

It's why gay teens commit suicide. It's why gays have higher rates of those STDs.

Sex is a tough enough subject in the straight world. Suicide too. Then haters make gays more uncomfortable. Well yeah, they are going to struggle to find resources and support in that kind of climate.

Sooooo...get out of their way.
So now facts are considered dishonest? So when the facts aren't on the side of neoprogressives, like everything else they have nothing to go on but fabricated theories

I must have missed the part where being stressed was a cause of HIV. Unless it's inherited genetically, you contract HIV from actually partaking in sexually deviant behavior showing disregard for yourself and your body

And again I must have missed the part where we should say these rates are not a concern and should be swept under the rug

Against just like these neoprogressives on so many topics, they don't actually care about the devastating numbers or the people affected by them as much as they do defending the behavior

This is de ja vu of the single black parent rate in the black family and now affecting the white family
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Children are better off in families where they grow up with their biological parents

There are exceptions to this rule, just like there are exceptions to the rule of smokers vs non-smokers

The thin smoke screen (no pun intended) is on those who show ZERO concern for these high rates of disease in the gay community, they show ZERO concern for these rising rates of illegitimacy in the heterosexual community, yet they promote these rebellious lifestyles all day long while demonizing the traditional family

And your monogamous homosexual relationships don't fit the bill for that biological parent role nor do they compare to the exponentially lower risk of the ridiculed abstinence and traditional marriage
Your jumbling of words makes ZERO sense, what rebellious lifestyle are you talking about? The life of a single person, gay and straight? Being single is the stage before being in a family.

Do single parents fit the bill or adopted parents? Are you saying adoption is wrong that children should be forced to be raised by their biological parents, even if they are unwanted children? Seriously, none of your post makes a lick of sense.
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