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Old 05-03-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Obama Blames U.S. For Gun Violence In Mexico | RealClearPolitics

If you look on any gun related article be in on Yahoo, CNN or whatever web news organization when a politician makes a statement like this, or when a anti-gun article is posted the comments by readers far often dismiss and counteract against them.

Once again people will say that this comment by the president is wrong and off the mark and I believe the open internet is a large part of what stops the anti-gunners from getting away with their propaganda.

The way I see it, if you look at photos of guns confiscated from cartels, is a majority of them are from black markets that originated from government sales be it from the U.S.A, Russia or China. I see photos of RPG and grenades from drug cartels, they sure aren't getting THOSE from a American civilian gun store or gun show.

America and Russia supplied countries in latin America and Africa during the cold war and I think a lot of those weapons made it to the black market and then into drug cartel hands. A real AK-47 can be bought for $20 to $50 dollars in some parts of south America or Africa why would a cartel buy one from a American gunshow that is traceable and just semi-auto for $600? Same with a AR-15 vs a M16.

Every time a Mexican soldier defects to a cartel if he takes his M16 with him that rifle originated from a U.S government sale it didn't come from a civilian gun show,

Governments especially the U.S , Russian and Chinese are the biggest cartels and gun runners of them all. And then there is the failed U.S war on drugs that creates the market for drugs and violence to begin with.

The politicians need to be confronted on this when they try to shift blame on civilians.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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Obama is a moron. I guess Fast & Furious happened so long ago he forgot about it.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:07 PM
 
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Obama isn't a real president and for the Mexicans, who cares...... They should be sent back across the border or killed.

The admin we have is useless a fact we will have to deal with for the next 3.5 years and then for a long time after the poser is out.

But having him (Obama) where he is is better than any of the next in line.......

The USA needs a real world class leader and there hasn't been one since Reagan, and before him Ike.

Suddenly the Russians are looking much better.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Of course we're to blame. Makes it that much easier to tax the snot out of us and our gun/ammo makers, and those of us who buy these products. Heck, they may even find a way to tax us for merely owning a weapon. Divide and conquer. All of this gun bashing from our communist in chief is just driving up the demand for weapons and ammo. Gun makers can't make them fast enough, and job shops are having a difficult time supplying enough parts to keep up. As a machinist, I couldn't be more thrilled. All this OT means even more money to purchase some additions to the arsenal. Keep it up obummer!

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Obama isn't a real president and for the Mexicans, who cares...... They should be sent back across the border or killed.
I am deeply disturbed by this statement. And this is coming from someone who despises the flow of illegal immigrants....
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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I would love to see someone question back to the president or anybody who perpetuates this propaganda as to how and why are these gangs and cartels having and using weapons that clearly originated from government sanctioned sales.

Of the amount of AK-47's or M16's confiscated from cartels if they are traceable which they probably are not, it is pretty evident that the majority would be found to have originated from a government sale or military exchange and that these weapons were never sold through a civilian source. And there is the question of these rocket launchers, because there is NO WAY NO HOW they came from a civilian gun show *loop* or a civilian sale without a background check.

Yet these people have the balls to blame you and I for what is really their fault.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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*you and me
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And then tell us where in the US one can buy rocket launchers, grenades and a submarine.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Obama isn't a real president and for the Mexicans, who cares...... They should be sent back across the border or killed...
...I am deeply disturbed by this statement. And this is coming from someone who despises the flow of illegal immigrants....
But hey, he got $500 for being an "Informative Poster", the same as you...
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:08 PM
 
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Obama is a moron. I guess Fast & Furious happened so long ago he forgot about it.
you said it Obama and his propagandist Carney even think what happened in Libya 8 months ago is old history....remember they were going to get to the bottom of it too...right....
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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Carney's comment & Obama's speech were both despicable.
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