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Dang liberals went from socialist to the "new fascists". Sure glad we have FOX News to inform us on this.
Well, fascists do not advocate state ownership of industry, therefore liberals are, if one is honest, more like fascists than communists.
Both, however, hold personal liberty in contempt and favor a stronger central government with more power. If that was not true, why do you liberals want a bigger, stronger central government with more regulations and higher taxes? By definition, this is ceding your personal liberty and finance to the government.
That's what the Democratic party is all about. They seek a bigger, more powerful government that reduces our freedom. They think they should define life choices for the rest of us so that we are all dependent on government. Then the privileged few like Obama can live high on the hog while the rest of us work to pay for his parties and Crony Capitalism.
The central core of the Democratic Platform is "We are smarter than you and will tell you how you should live".
Again, that's untrue.
The biggest increases in government occurred during Reagan and Bush, two self-identified conservatives. When one talks about "reducing our freedoms" the conservative have not been shy when they were in control.
In the 1960s, Republicans argued the supremacy of the 10th Amendment to resisted the increasing power of the central government. But when Republicans were in power they passed a special law to yank jurisdiction from the State of Florida and gave it to the federal government in the matter of Terry Schiavo. They also passed laws at the federal level dictating to the states matters on medical marijuana, assisted suicide, driver's license, education and who can get married.
While on the topic of freedoms, one can't tell me that liberals "think they should define life choices for the rest of us" when conservatives try to deny gays their rights and restrict women their reproductive rights.
When I was a boy, conservatives told us that having the military holding citizens without trial in secret compounds and torture them was only what the Communists did. But that occurred under the most conservative administration in 100 years.
Both, however, hold personal liberty in contempt and favor a stronger central government with more power. If that was not true, why do you liberals want a bigger, stronger central government with more regulations and higher taxes? By definition, this is ceding your personal liberty and finance to the government.
That's just your mirror thinking peaking through. Conservatives say they are for small government as a goal of its own, so conservatives think that liberals must believe the opposite and thus be for big government.
The reality is that liberals want government to do certain things, like provide essential health care; a safety net and old age benefits, the size of government per se isn’t the objective.
But reviewing recent history, the size of government increased the most under Republican Administrations.
Liberals are all about regulation, power, and control.
They are not truly happy unless they are telling somebody how to live their lives and enforcing their will at gunpoint.
Liberals hate individual liberty, and hence, they also hate the U.S. Constitution.
I thought libbies hated guns LOL You mean like righties telling people who they can and can't marry. or what a woman can do with her own body? Libbies hate individual liberties SO much, many of them are pro-CHOICE, and would like to see individuals have the LIBERTY to marry the person they love, regardless of gender.
Why do righties always seem to be in angry, bitter moods all the time??? Always putting down those who they disagree with. Always walking around like someone pi**ed in their oatmeal that morning.
That's just your mirror thinking peaking through. Conservatives say they are for small government as a goal of its own, so conservatives think that liberals must believe the opposite and thus be for big government.
The reality is that liberals want government to do certain things, like provide essential health care; a safety net and old age benefits, the size of government per se isn’t the objective.
But reviewing recent history, the size of government increased the most under Republican Administrations.
"size of government per se isn't the objective"?
So how is providing government healthcare, "safety net and old age benefits" not expanding government? So now you feel as though the EPA should be eliminated? So now you believe that federal departments such as energy and education should be eliminated? So now you oppose gun control? So now you oppose the war on coal? So now you want lower taxes? So now you feel as though expansion of social programs should be halted/reduced?
You say one thing, but you believe the opposite. EVERYTHING you believe in involves an EXPANSION of the "rights" of government over the rights of the individual. You know this to be true, but simply cannot verbalize it, as it would require some introspection and a realization that you are an opponant of personal liberty and support government tyranny.
NO ONE wants to think of themselves as "the bad guy". However, if you are a liberal, you support those issues and actions which OPPOSE PERSONAL FREEDOM. Face it- you are the "bad guy" and no different from any other group of totalitarians throughout history.
So how is providing government healthcare, "safety net and old age benefits" not expanding government? So now you feel as though the EPA should be eliminated? So now you believe that federal departments such as energy and education should be eliminated? So now you oppose gun control? So now you oppose the war on coal? So now you want lower taxes? So now you feel as though expansion of social programs should be halted/reduced?
You say one thing, but you believe the opposite. EVERYTHING you believe in involves an EXPANSION of the "rights" of government over the rights of the individual. You know this to be true, but simply cannot verbalize it, as it would require some introspection and a realization that you are an opponant of personal liberty and support government tyranny.
I don't see where I wrote all those things you said I said, like favoring the elimination of major government departments -- because I didn't. I think you need new glasses or lower dosage meds, because you see things that aren't there.
But you raise an interesting point -- believing that regulations impede our liberty and freedom. "Freedom" implies free from something -- like free of illness; free of chemicals;, etc..
On the contrary, while you may think that imposing pollution regulations reduced freedom, I think it enhances freedom -- I now have more freedom to breathe clean air. Because of other regulations, I have more freedom to drink clean water; eat unadulterated food; not be shot by some looney; and not run out of needed energy, etc.
Health care regulations mean more Americans will be free of diseases and be free of bankrupting medical bills.
Whether it's cigarettes, large sugary drinks, guns, or raw milk, liberals do not seem to be happy unless they're banning something. Whatever happened to the land of the free?
When did imposing your wishes on others become a badge of honor?
I don't understand why so many feel that the government taking care of its citizens is "tyranny" What's tyrannical about making sure your citizens have access to decent health care, and will be taken care of in the event something bad happens to them through no fault of their own?? Why is that such a bad thing? I fail to see how improving the quality of life for a nations citizens is tyrannical, but corporate welfare and preferential treatment of the wealthy is OK?
Whether it's cigarettes, large sugary drinks, guns, or raw milk, liberals do not seem to be happy unless they're banning something. Whatever happened to the land of the free?
When did imposing your wishes on others become a badge of honor?
They don't just ban things, they change the name of things to try to make them seem more palatable.
Tight back atcha. Conservatives want to ban abortions, birth control, violent video games, mosques, halal food, Spanish, Planned Parenthood, porn, gay marriage, unions, climate change science, seatbelts, background checks, funding for the arts, immigration, marijuana......
Did I leave anything out?
You only left out the truth. Conservatives want to ban paying for parasites, I mean people, who contribute nothing and are a drag on society, aka liberals.
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