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Old 05-16-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: North America
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Politicians who are more interested in party loyalty than the good of the nation.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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Yawn.

I said Democrats wanted 100% control of healthcare, not that they got it (yet).

The Ryan budget would have reduced spending by $400 billion over 10 years than Democratic propoals. 400 billion out of nearly 50 trillion compared to Dems. Minimal difference.

Republicans and Democrats in DC hold the same position on same sex marriage. Leave it to the states. George Bush announced in 2004 that it was a state issue and the Feds should leave it alone. The exact same position that Obama was so "brave and bold" for taking a decade later. lols.

There is no division in Congress. It's an illusion. Mostly to get ignorant people to send in campaign donations and vote for "our side." lols. Useful idiots.
Are you saying that the federal government is projected to spend 50 trillion on health care over the next 10 years? That's not the case and you're numbers are way off.

There are three main components to federal health care spending: Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare's new insurance subsidies/tax credits. Total Medicaid and Medicare spending over the next 10 years is projected to be 10.4 trillion. CBO | How Have CBO If you add in the cost of insurance subsidies and tax credits, then you get another 1 trillion. http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...Coverage_2.pdf

10.4 trillion + 1 trillion is 11.4 trillion (38 trillion less than the 50 trillion figure you cited).

Also, Bush did support an amendment in 2004 to ban same sex marriage. CNN.com - Transcript of Bush statement - Feb. 24, 2004

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Old 05-16-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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I've seen an intersting article that gerrymandering did. Politicans act to get reelected, and politicans from districts with safe majorities make little or no effort to compromise with the other side.
I see it the other way. Gerrymandering has caused members of Congress to be voted in with a narrow hold on a very conservative group of voters. In order to win re-election the member of Congress needs to pander to these extreme constituents.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I see it the other way. Gerrymandering has caused members of Congress to be voted in with a narrow hold on a very conservative group of voters. In order to win re-election the member of Congress needs to pander to these extreme constituents.
More so with primaries. This causes all the flip-flopping we always hear about in September-November during the election cycle.
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:55 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Who Killed Bipartisanship? We Used to Work Together to Solve Problems
The GOP.


Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President - YouTube
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