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Minnesota and Massachusetts are very leftist and aren't in nearly as bad of shape as Michigan. Minnesota has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation.
That is because whites did not abandon those other liberal cities. The issue of Detroit is really not about politics....but race.
That is because whites did not abandon those other liberal cities. The issue of Detroit is really not about politics....but race.
For a time, Whites were leaving other cities. However, with Detroit, those who had the money never returned. Those who had means are going back to cities like Seattle and Boston.
That is because whites did not abandon those other liberal cities. The issue of Detroit is really not about politics....but race.
No --- it was when Bill Clinton pushed through his free trade -- knowing full well that it would destroy cities like Detroit. Whites and middle class blacks left Detroit when the jobs left, even if only whites left but there were still good jobs, Detroit would be much better off.
The liberals did not stand up against Bill Clinton and his NAFTA and other free trade policies. The unions didn't do much either to keep jobs for the people. Liberal governors in Michigan didn't do anything to keep jobs there.
In fact Pat Buchanan was one of the only ones who spoke out against NAFTA, but liberals opposed him.
For a time, Whites were leaving other cities. However, with Detroit, those who had the money never returned. Those who had means are going back to cities like Seattle and Boston.
Yep...cities are the trend now. The suburbs are going to experience increasing rates of poverty while the cities are going to experience decreasing rates as the gentry return to many neighborhoods. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Detroit and I think things are being orchestrated to give whites the confidence to return to the city.....and at the same time the suburbs are opening up to blacks as they never have before.
Liberal politicians only care about blacks when it comes to getting their votes. Does anyone really think Bill Clinton had any concern at all about the black people of Detroit when he screwed them over with his NAFTA deal?
Did he provide any alternatives for them when he pushed through that and other "free trade" deals that he knew would cost people their jobs and hopes of ever having jobs? No --- he got rich from it and that's all that mattered to him.
Yep...cities are the trend now. The suburbs are going to experience increasing rates of poverty while the cities are going to experience decreasing rates as the gentry return to many neighborhoods. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Detroit and I think things are being orchestrated to give whites the confidence to return to the city.....and at the same time the suburbs are opening up to blacks as they never have before.
Wow -- it sounds like blacks don't follow the trends then? Now that the suburbs are heading to poverty, blacks are heading toward them? Then I guess they get what they deserve.
If what you say is true, then you'd think people in the cities would want to stay put.
No --- it was when Bill Clinton pushed through his free trade -- knowing full well that it would destroy cities like Detroit. Whites and middle class blacks left Detroit when the jobs left, even if only whites left but there were still good jobs, Detroit would be much better off.
The liberals did not stand up against Bill Clinton and his NAFTA and other free trade policies. The unions didn't do much either to keep jobs for the people. Liberal governors in Michigan didn't do anything to keep jobs there.
In fact Pat Buchanan was one of the only ones who spoke out against NAFTA, but liberals opposed him.
Again, despite a recorded history replete with evidence and example of racism and negative feelings and treatment of blacks, we are to believe that racism and race played no major role in the changes of Detroit over the last 40 years. Instead, its free trade. Well....free trade should have Destroyed the suburbs as well as the city because most of the factories moved out to the suburbs long ago.
Wow -- it sounds like blacks don't follow the trends then? Now that the suburbs are heading to poverty, blacks are heading toward them? Then I guess they get what they deserve.
If what you say is true, then you'd think people in the cities would want to stay put.
Residential trends, gentrification, are essentially set by the demographic with the money and the power. To follow the trend you basically have to have the same.
Again, despite a recorded history replete with evidence and example of racism and negative feelings and treatment of blacks, we are to believe that racism and race played no major role in the changes of Detroit over the last 40 years. Instead, its free trade. Well....free trade should have Destroyed the suburbs as well as the city because most of the factories moved out to the suburbs long ago.
The factories moved to Mexico and China, the suburbs never had many factories. The factory workers always were more urban.
Irony --- cars were much cheaper when they were made in Detroit. Today you almost cannot find a car selling for less than $30,000 --- when they never cost that when Detroit produced them.
The factories moved to Mexico and China, the suburbs never had many factories. The factory workers always were more urban.
Irony --- cars were much cheaper when they were made in Detroit. Today you almost cannot find a car selling for less than $30,000 --- when they never cost that when Detroit produced them.
You obviously do not know much about Metro Detroit....but why should that stop you? Again, no acknowledgment of the impact of racism.
If racism were rain.....blacks could be standing out in the rain, without an umbrella, and people would argue that blacks being wet has nothing to do with the rain. Instead, they want people to believe that blacks have a greater propensity to sweat and this is why they are wet
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