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I live in a major city (Seattle) am not married at age thirty, never want kids, do not go to a traditional church (I'm a Gnostic) work in a restaurant, and I am basically what you would expect a north west liberal to be. My choice right? My liberty? Well...ever notice that so many conservatives, who go on and on about "individual liberty" get so up in an uproar when people use it?
Here is a prime example: conservative wackjobs freaking out about a gay teen event that has teens in drag. Personal liberty, right? Right to DRESS HOW YOU WANT TO and right for people to LET THEIR KIDS DRESS HOW THEY WANT TO AND RAISE THEM AS THEY SEE FIT? Well, the right doesn't think so:
Now, if the left was to say something about kids speaking in the tongues at one of those ridiculous "boom! shaka-laka" churches, we would never hear the end of it.
And they don't even like people playing video games. In Maine this last election the Republicans pulled out a "boom shell" against the Democratic opponent. Was in bribery? Corruption? No...the found out she PLAYS WORLD OF WARCRAFT
I mean, all this "personal liberty", and we can't even play video games on our days off?
And what happened the last time we had a hard conservative (as opposed to Obama, a soft conservative) in the White House? He got his henchman John Ashcraft (name purposely misspelled because the board is blocking it for some reason) to crack down on pornography. And I don't mean child pornography, I mean every day, run-of-the-mill smut like "Das Butt" and "Position:Impossible" So we have all this "personal liberty," but not the liberty to watch porn if we as adults choose to do so?
And ever notice the people who go on and on about "liberty this" and "freedom that" are the first ones to make comments about people living lifestyles they don't like, even if they are not on any form of public assistance? It is always the "pro-liberty conservatives" who make comments about people with tattoos, piercings, who don't believe in God necessarily and don't want to get married. What about their "liberty"?
And they don't even like it when we choose not to have kids. I am child-free, meaning I never really want kids. Most people who make the same decision I have noticed are lefties. And what do the conservatives have to say about people who make the choice to not have kids? Hint, it isn't good: Why the Choice to Be Childless is Bad for America - Newsweek and The Daily Beast
One can't help but conclude that conservatives are not really interested in people being free as much as they are in people living the exam same lifestyle they think is best: nuclear family (same race couple of course ) three kids, in the suburbs, mom at home, dad working, protestant church on Sundays. And for those of us who may want something different from life?...well, we have liberty all right, the liberty to NOT EXIST.
I have yet to meet a leftist who cares if I plan on working in the restaurant industry my whole life, never marry, watch zombie movies and practice ceremonial magick and made out with an unbelievably cute/passable 22 year old cross dresser in Seattle's gay neighborhood (drunk on absinthe...but strangely enough I don't regret it ) Lefties don't care if I wear combat boots and still listen to heavy metal at age 28. It is only the right-wing hacks so bent on "personal freedom" who do.
This is one of the many reasons why conservatism is dying in America. At least libertarians are consistent, I can say that much for them.
I live in a major city (Seattle) am not married at age thirty, never want kids, do not go to a traditional church (I'm a Gnostic) work in a restaurant, and I am basically what you would expect a north west liberal to be. My choice right? My liberty? Well...ever notice that so many conservatives, who go on and on about "individual liberty" get so up in an uproar when people use it?
Here is a prime example: conservative wackjobs freaking out about a gay teen event that has teens in drag. Personal liberty, right? Right to DRESS HOW YOU WANT TO and right for people to LET THEIR KIDS DRESS HOW THEY WANT TO AND RAISE THEM AS THEY SEE FIT? Well, the right doesn't think so:
Now, if the left was to say something about kids speaking in the tongues at one of those ridiculous "boom! shaka-laka" churches, we would never hear the end of it.
And they don't even like people playing video games. In Maine this last election the Republicans pulled out a "boom shell" against the Democratic opponent. Was in bribery? Corruption? No...the found out she PLAYS WORLD OF WARCRAFT
I mean, all this "personal liberty", and we can't even play video games on our days off?
And what happened the last time we had a hard conservative (as opposed to Obama, a soft conservative) in the White House? He got his henchman John Ashcraft (name purposely misspelled because the board is blocking it for some reason) to crack down on pornography. And I don't mean child pornography, I mean every day, run-of-the-mill smut like "Das Butt" and "Position:Impossible" So we have all this "personal liberty," but not the liberty to watch porn if we as adults choose to do so?
And ever notice the people who go on and on about "liberty this" and "freedom that" are the first ones to make comments about people living lifestyles they don't like, even if they are not on any form of public assistance? It is always the "pro-liberty conservatives" who make comments about people with tattoos, piercings, who don't believe in God necessarily and don't want to get married. What about their "liberty"?
And they don't even like it when we choose not to have kids. I am child-free, meaning I never really want kids. Most people who make the same decision I have noticed are lefties. And what do the conservatives have to say about people who make the choice to not have kids? Hint, it isn't good: Why the Choice to Be Childless is Bad for America - Newsweek and The Daily Beast
One can't help but conclude that conservatives are not really interested in people being free as much as they are in people living the exam same lifestyle they think is best: nuclear family (same race couple of course ) three kids, in the suburbs, mom at home, dad working, protestant church on Sundays. And for those of us who may want something different from life?...well, we have liberty all right, the liberty to NOT EXIST.
I have yet to meet a leftist who cares if I plan on working in the restaurant industry my whole life, never marry, watch zombie movies and practice ceremonial magick and made out with an unbelievably cute/passable 22 year old cross dresser in Seattle's gay neighborhood (drunk on absinthe...but strangely enough I don't regret it ) Lefties don't care if I wear combat boots and still listen to heavy metal at age 28. It is only the right-wing hacks so bent on "personal freedom" who do.
This is one of the many reasons why conservatism is dying in America. At least libertarians are consistent, I can say that much for them.
We only hate when other uses their freedom to deprive the freedoms, liberty, or rights of others,do what ever you want, that being said don't use your freedom of speech to restrict my right to keep and bear arms...
I live in a major city (Seattle) am not married at age thirty, never want kids, do not go to a traditional church (I'm a Gnostic) work in a restaurant, and I am basically what you would expect a north west liberal to be. My choice right? My liberty? Well...ever notice that so many conservatives, who go on and on about "individual liberty" get so up in an uproar when people use it?
Here is a prime example: conservative wackjobs freaking out about a gay teen event that has teens in drag. Personal liberty, right? Right to DRESS HOW YOU WANT TO and right for people to LET THEIR KIDS DRESS HOW THEY WANT TO AND RAISE THEM AS THEY SEE FIT? Well, the right doesn't think so:
Now, if the left was to say something about kids speaking in the tongues at one of those ridiculous "boom! shaka-laka" churches, we would never hear the end of it.
And they don't even like people playing video games. In Maine this last election the Republicans pulled out a "boom shell" against the Democratic opponent. Was in bribery? Corruption? No...the found out she PLAYS WORLD OF WARCRAFT
I mean, all this "personal liberty", and we can't even play video games on our days off?
And what happened the last time we had a hard conservative (as opposed to Obama, a soft conservative) in the White House? He got his henchman John Ashcraft (name purposely misspelled because the board is blocking it for some reason) to crack down on pornography. And I don't mean child pornography, I mean every day, run-of-the-mill smut like "Das Butt" and "Position:Impossible" So we have all this "personal liberty," but not the liberty to watch porn if we as adults choose to do so?
And ever notice the people who go on and on about "liberty this" and "freedom that" are the first ones to make comments about people living lifestyles they don't like, even if they are not on any form of public assistance? It is always the "pro-liberty conservatives" who make comments about people with tattoos, piercings, who don't believe in God necessarily and don't want to get married. What about their "liberty"?
And they don't even like it when we choose not to have kids. I am child-free, meaning I never really want kids. Most people who make the same decision I have noticed are lefties. And what do the conservatives have to say about people who make the choice to not have kids? Hint, it isn't good: Why the Choice to Be Childless is Bad for America - Newsweek and The Daily Beast
One can't help but conclude that conservatives are not really interested in people being free as much as they are in people living the exam same lifestyle they think is best: nuclear family (same race couple of course ) three kids, in the suburbs, mom at home, dad working, protestant church on Sundays. And for those of us who may want something different from life?...well, we have liberty all right, the liberty to NOT EXIST.
I have yet to meet a leftist who cares if I plan on working in the restaurant industry my whole life, never marry, watch zombie movies and practice ceremonial magick and made out with an unbelievably cute/passable 22 year old cross dresser in Seattle's gay neighborhood (drunk on absinthe...but strangely enough I don't regret it ) Lefties don't care if I wear combat boots and still listen to heavy metal at age 28. It is only the right-wing hacks so bent on "personal freedom" who do.
This is one of the many reasons why conservatism is dying in America. At least libertarians are consistent, I can say that much for them.
1.) W wasn't a "hardcore conservative." He was a big-government neoconservative, the philosophy of which comes from Trotskyite communism.
2.) Government interference in social "values" issues are, in fact, why the GOP is dying, and why most people under 35 lean libertarian.
3.) Libertarianism (and all its offshoots) IS the only consistent political philosophy with regards to self-ownership, non-aggression, and a live-and-let-live worldview.
Here is a prime example: conservative wackjobs freaking out about a gay teen event that has teens in drag. Personal liberty, right? Right to DRESS HOW YOU WANT TO and right for people to LET THEIR KIDS DRESS HOW THEY WANT TO AND RAISE THEM AS THEY SEE FIT? Well, the right doesn't think so:
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Now, if the left was to say something about kids speaking in the tongues at one of those ridiculous "boom! shaka-laka" churches, we would never hear the end of it.
I think either side is free to speak out against this, yes? That's what free speech is about isn't it?
The issue is when government gets involved and that applies to both sides whether the government is repressing the rights of gay individuals or advocating/encouraging them.
As for the rest of your post I'd be careful about painting such a broad picture, it would be like me suggesting all Liberals would be represented by those in the Occupy crowd. Both parties are fractured into many types but the center left and center right when combined make up the majority.
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This is one of the many reasons why conservatism is dying in America.
I think what is dying is the socially conservative, don;t mistake that for the death of conservatism.
We only hate when other uses their freedom to deprive the freedoms, liberty, or rights of others,do what ever you want, that being said don't use your freedom of speech to restrict my right to keep and bear arms...
I have a glock, a shotgun, and a Ruger .22 lite and will probably get a AK-47 (finally!) after I save up for it. I believe in the 2nd amendment. Why? Because we working class people need to arm ourselves to defend our homes, families, and freedoms and because the bourgeoisie will always be able to hire guns (like Blackwater) while we will not.
If and when I meet that surprisingly cute crossdresser again and a redneck who made a wrong turn and is in Seattle for whatever reason tries to do some hate crime nonsense, I will most likely be armed with a gun, my concealed carry permit, and be ready to send his worthless fascist butt to finally meet Reagan in hell.
And what happened the last time we had a hard conservative (as opposed to Obama, a soft conservative) in the White House? He got his henchman John Ashcraft (name purposely misspelled because the board is blocking it for some reason) to crack down on pornography. And I don't mean child pornography, I mean every day, run-of-the-mill smut like "Das Butt" and "Position:Impossible" So we have all this "personal liberty," but not the liberty to watch porn if we as adults choose to do so?
******** (Why is John A..croft being censored?) wasted $10,000 of taxpayers' money to cover up Lady Justice's tit.
I think that speaks volume unto itself.
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I have yet to meet a leftist who cares if I plan on working in the restaurant industry my whole life, never marry, watch zombie movies and practice ceremonial magick and made out with an unbelievably cute/passable 22 year old cross dresser in Seattle's gay neighborhood (drunk on absinthe...but strangely enough I don't regret it ) Lefties don't care if I wear combat boots and still listen to heavy metal at age 28. It is only the right-wing hacks so bent on "personal freedom" who do.
Liberals are more tolerant. It is our nature. Unfortunately, the Democratic Party still suffers from a lack of liberalism.
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This is one of the many reasons why conservatism is dying in America. At least libertarians are consistent, I can say that much for them.
I admire libertarians for their consistency, honesty, and thoughtfulness. However, they are wrong, not only on economic issues, but civil liberty issues.
Remember it was libertarians who stymied the CRA of 1964 and still to this day believe in overturning it. Their free market fundamentalism pollutes their soul.
I think either side is free to speak out against this, yes? That's what free speech is about isn't it?
The issue is when government gets involved and that applies to both sides whether the government is repressing the rights of gay individuals or advocating/encouraging them.
As for the rest of your post I'd be careful about painting such a broad picture, it would be like me suggesting all Liberals would be represented by those in the Occupy crowd. Both parties are fractured into many types but the center left and center right when combined make up the majority.
I think what is dying is the socially conservative, don;t mistake that for the death of conservatism.
you mean evangelism, social conservatives are looking to the libertarianism.
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) three kids, in the suburbs, mom at home, dad working, protestant church on Sundays. And for those of us who may want something different from life?...well, we have liberty all right, the liberty to NOT EXIST. 
) Lefties don't care if I wear combat boots and still listen to heavy metal at age 28. It is only the right-wing hacks so bent on "personal freedom" who do. 
