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Old 05-21-2013, 09:45 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Hmm, Obama's FEMA.
Another "good job Brownie". Before all you Obama people start having piles of shat in their shorts about how that's raaacccist you'll remember that was a Dem war cry after Bush said it referring to FEMA head Mr. Brown and Katrina.
Thing is, no matter how many botched disasters go by NOTHING changes.
The moral of this is DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT then you won't be disappointed.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Looks like FEMA has blood on its hands. Too bad we'll never know the names of the responsible parties
Only because nobody will "have any memory of that" just like every other dastardly deed that's happened over the last few years.

Ya know, people talked and gossiped about Reagan and his mental health but at least he remembered what was going on in his administration.
I'm beginning to think there's a epidemic of early onset Alzheimer's that's beset D.C.!
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:52 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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There was never any obstacle for the city or the state or private companies to fund their own safe rooms in these schools.

They delay was in having it paid for by the federal government.

But, I thought conservatives believe that the local governments should run their own affairs, should fund the things the way they see fit?

Conservatives are complaining that Federal money wasn't spent on a local issue?

Seems...hypocritical.

On some fronts y'all complain that Federal money is spent, then complain that it wasn't spent fast enough?

Why should New Englanders fund tornado safe rooms in Oklahoma, that is, from a Federalist or conservative point of view?
But isn't the war cry over the last few years always "it's for the chiiiilldreeen"?
Well? Or is it only for the children when it's a right that's to be restricted or something we're forced to do?
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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You might be correct if citizens of Moore weren't required to pay federal tax.

See how that works?

Since Moore citizens have to help pay for New Englander disasters, turn about is fair play.

Now if they didn't have to pay federal tax, you might have a point. But since they do pay tax, your premise is not only flawed but a total fail.
But, the issue isn't federal disaster relief. The post you responded to was addressing a pork project. Nobody is entitled to special projects. If people in OK want basements they can assess a state or local tax to pay for it. The Indian reservations are the only people in OK that can justifiably ask for free storm shelters.

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Only because nobody will "have any memory of that" just like every other dastardly deed that's happened over the last few years.

Ya know, people talked and gossiped about Reagan and his mental health but at least he remembered what was going on in his administration.
I'm beginning to think there's a epidemic of early onset Alzheimer's that's beset D.C.!
That's actually the only thing that makes sense.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:59 PM
 
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Maybe they should have contacted their Congressman/Senator. Isn't that what they elected them to do? Represent the Oklahoma consituency and be their voice in government? Maybe if the do nothing GOP Congress had more on the agenda than BS scandals to derail Obama and Hillary Clinton, the people of Oklahoma would have gotten their safe rooms. They elected these representatives, do they even know why they did?
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:04 PM
 
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Why should New Englanders fund tornado safe rooms in Oklahoma, that is, from a Federalist or conservative point of view?
Because Oklahoman's funded New Englanders.... The Conservative point of view is you eliminate these programs thereby reducing their tax burden and let Oklohoman's and New Englanders decide to how they are going to tax and spend.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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Moore was going to get a $2 million dollar grant.

Obama sent $250 million to Egypt this year.

$2 million is most likely less than Sasha and Malia's great spring break adventure. But as we learned from the sequester, Obama doesn't care about anyone else's kids.
He sent 3 billion to Israel last year, but you missed that somehow.

The state of Oklahoma or city of Moore shouldn't be waiting for a 2 million dollar federal grant to do what they need to do.

FEMA isn't at fault here.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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Because Oklahoman's funded New Englanders.... The Conservative point of view is you eliminate these programs thereby reducing their tax burden and let Oklohoman's and New Englanders decide to how they are going to tax and spend.
Do you really want to compare New Englander's tax contribution to Oklahoman's? Really?
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:13 PM
 
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You might be correct if citizens of Moore weren't required to pay federal tax.

See how that works?

Since Moore citizens have to help pay for New Englander disasters, turn about is fair play.

Now if they didn't have to pay federal tax, you might have a point. But since they do pay tax, your premise is not only flawed but a total fail.
Well, that is not true is it? OK receives more federal tax dollars than it gives. At the same time, you are talking about preventative measures vs disaster relief which is not an apples to apples comparison. I agree that it is awful that this tragedy could have been lessened so easily, but lets be honest, reasoned, and measured in our discourse.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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The state of Oklahoma or city of Moore shouldn't be waiting for a 2 million dollar federal grant to do what they need to do.
The red tape is the problem, if they go forward with this and it doesn't exactly meet FEMA's requirements their application will be rejected.
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