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Old 05-22-2013, 05:40 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Do you think most common people really care what happens to the environment? It's kind of saddening that most people are so involved in their own lives: their job, raising their family.etc, which is fine, but few actually think globally to try to halt climate change, deforestation, extinction. On one hand I don't blame us as we can often feel powerless, and corporations often seem so hard to stop. It just makes one cynical about everything, but I don't think we should stop doing what we can to make things better.

I do basic things like recycling, donating to conservative NGO's etc, and when I do have a house of my own I would like to rely on sustainable/renewable energy, but deep down I think we weren't to designed to think globally and with our current lifestyle the world we know it is doomed. At the very least it will be the end of civilisation.

 
Old 05-22-2013, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE FAILURE OF "THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT."

You are correct. People don't care about the environment when it is phrased as something "out there" instead of where we all live and breathe.

But, when people realize that humans won't be able to live on a planet as poisoned as we are making it, that attitude will change.

The big question is, will it be too late?

The slogan shouldn't be "Save the Whales.'

It should be "Save Us." Or "Save Our Children."

And a mythical zombie or Sky-Daddy ain't going to save us. We have to save ourselves.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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Do you think most common people really care what happens to the environment? It's kind of saddening that most people are so involved in their own lives: their job, raising their family.etc, which is fine, but few actually think globally to try to halt climate change, deforestation, extinction. On one hand I don't blame us as we can often feel powerless, and corporations often seem so hard to stop. It just makes one cynical about everything, but I don't think we should stop doing what we can to make things better.

I do basic things like recycling, donating to conservative NGO's etc, and when I do have a house of my own I would like to rely on sustainable/renewable energy, but deep down I think we weren't to designed to think globally and with our current lifestyle the world we know it is doomed. At the very least it will be the end of civilisation.
Trimac, most of what you are saying is typical anti-human propaganda designed to make you feel like ****. It's no accident, either. "Climate change" is not an issue, never was, and never will. I'm much more concnered about industrial pollutants in our air and water, not CO2. Those are real environmental concerns, 75% of so-called environmental concerns are hot air or have some profit motive behind them, green energy being one of them.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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I do and I hope most other do to. I'm old enough to remember what the air quality was here in the USA prior to regulations. Air and water quality are just to important to ignore.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Most people do care what happens to the earth, in the abstract. Where you run into resistance is when environmentalism affects people directly. NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) is just as prevalent today as it was in the 1970s. The "climate change" movement wants people to fundamentally change their lifestyle in the hopes that doing so will somehow have an effect on a phenomenon that hasn't even be proven to actually exist yet.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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Do you think most common people really care what happens to the environment? It's kind of saddening that most people are so involved in their own lives: their job, raising their family.etc, which is fine, but few actually think globally to try to halt climate change, deforestation, extinction. On one hand I don't blame us as we can often feel powerless, and corporations often seem so hard to stop. It just makes one cynical about everything, but I don't think we should stop doing what we can to make things better.

I do basic things like recycling, donating to conservative NGO's etc, and when I do have a house of my own I would like to rely on sustainable/renewable energy, but deep down I think we weren't to designed to think globally and with our current lifestyle the world we know it is doomed. At the very least it will be the end of civilisation.

Of course most people "care about the earth". However, most intelligent people do not accept and digest garbage theories (like global warming) which has no impact "on the earth" and can be very damaging to the US economy.

There is a difference between compassion and idiocy. However, for many leftist groups, they go hand in hand.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Houston
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And a mythical zombie or Sky-Daddy ain't going to save us. We have to save ourselves.

Maybe if you did not insult the religious beliefs of the majority of the population they might listen to what you have to say.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Most people do care what happens to the earth, in the abstract. Where you run into resistance is when environmentalism affects people directly. NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) is just as prevalent today as it was in the 1970s. The "climate change" movement wants people to fundamentally change their lifestyle in the hopes that doing so will somehow have an effect on a phenomenon that hasn't even be proven to actually exist yet.
That's the real test of whether they truly care. Whether they'd a V8 or SUV they don't really need or not.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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People need to address how we deal with issues regarding the environment, It is not that we need to save the Earth, the Earth is just fine. Take for Example the planet Mercury, it has a surface temperature that of molten rock/lead As far as human life is concerned it will not support human life, but the planet Mercury is just fine all by its self. What we need to address is if we keeping going the way we are going, most likely we will make the Earth not habitable for the human population. So we should be moving to if you want to still and breath on planet Earth, then we need to change what and how we are interacting with the environment.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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It is very sad. One thing that doesn't seem to be mentioned often is the death of bees all over the World.

I remember reading that 1 out of every 3 bites of food is directly or indirectly pollinated by bees and we are losing about half of the World's bees every two years and nobody seems to know why.

US approves new pesticides linked to mass bee deaths as EU enacts ban ? RT USA
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