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The corporates like big government because there's less politicians to win over to get laws passed.
When you keep it local the people tend to win out.
State government is big government to local city/town government.
Fed government is big government to state government.
It works at all levels.
The more concentrated the power/authority is the easier it is for big business to influence.
The key is to know where the lines should be drawn at each level of government.
IMHO the city should be able to determine their local laws and the state is wrong in this case.
“You cannot have a local bill that deals with either the environment, health or a nuisance,” Davis explained. “It’s going to have to be done with a statewide bill.”
Which is something the left has argued for forever. If this was a case of a statewide ban and a city would place a vote to allow smoking on their beach, the left would complain.
What this shows is that government has simply got too big and cumbersome to work efficiently.
Exactly. This is a prime example as to why big government ideology that liberals support doesnt work.
Reminds me of me fighting my local township because I was doing work in my yard. They have an ordinance that you need a permit if your property is water front. Sure enough, they fought with me over a year until they were finally convinced that the township doesnt have jurisdiction because my property is a FEMA flood zone.
They finally had to call in FEMA who laughed in the townships face because I was making improvements to the property, (like planting trees and putting stones in the crick to reduce dirt from washing down stream)
the entire point is, republicans believe local governments know best. the local government determined that a smoking ban was necessary and the state intervened. That is not small government.
Exactly right! The Republicans and their base no longer believe that a consituency or majority rule counts. Like big babies that want a do-over when things don't go their way. Just look at the filibuster and its abuse.
Exactly right! The Republicans and their base no longer believe that a consituency or majority rule counts. Like big babies that want a do-over when things don't go their way. Just look at the filibuster and its abuse.
Stop embarassing yourself.
THE TOWNSHIP DOES NOT OWN MOST OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION..
IMHO the city should be able to determine their local laws and the state is wrong in this case.
They should but they don't. If someone wants to argue that control should be gave back to the local governments and then we can discuss the laws from there, I would be good with that.
Being that the laws don't allow the city to do this, state politicians have no other choice than to enforce the current laws.
People don't seem to understand that big government isn't always there to help you. The things you argue for one day comes back to bite you the next.
IMHO the city should be able to determine their local laws and the state is wrong in this case.
But the city DOES NOT OWN THE PROPERTY below the high water mark and thus they cant write laws pertaining to property they dont own.
It would be dumb to write laws that limit smoking above the high water mark and then push all of the smokers closer to the water, given le rois positions that you cant enforce littering laws in the area.
This would mean cigarette butts will be left in the area the water come in, washing the butts out to sea..
yes, thats actually what these liberal kooks, who are so concerned about the environment, are asking for..
You dont seem to understand the conservative argument to begin with. We want a small FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, and want people LOCALLY to govern themself. Who do you think you are to support legislation which affects people in another city on the other side of the country?
conservative logic FAIL.
a common conservative response to local rent control is to legislate it out of existance at the state level, thereby depriving local governments of that option.
specifically, when local rent controls are merely proposed, landlords run to the legislature to prohibit it, where conservatives are happy to accommodate their wishes.
detroit voters qualified a rent control proposal for the 1988 november ballot, and the legislature banned it so quickly that voters never had the opportunity to vote on it.
i consider rent control (capping prices) and zoning (capping supply and thereby boosting prices) opposite sides of the same regulatory coin, so prohibiting rent control while allowing zoning constitutes taking the side of property owners instead of maintaining a level playing field in the housing market..
a common conservative response to local rent control is to legislate it out of existance at the state level, thereby depriving local governments of that option.
specifically, when local rent controls are merely proposed, landlords run to the legislature to prohibit it, where conservatives are happy to accommodate their wishes.
detroit voters qualified a rent controol proposal for the 1988 november ballot, and the legislature banned it so quickly that voters never had the opportunity to vote on it.
i consider rent control (capping prices) and zoning (capping supply and thereby boosting prices) opposite sides of the same regulatory coin, so prohibiting rent control while allowing zoning constitutes taking the side of property owners instead of maintaining a level playing field in the housing market..
I'm sitting here wondering when Detroit became a good example to use for anything.
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