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Old 05-25-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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Lets hope this trend continues.

Allysia Finley: A Farmers' Rebellion Lifts the California GOP - WSJ.com

 
Old 05-25-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Der Hinterlands is owned, lock, stock and barrel by Monsanto.
 
Old 05-25-2013, 11:10 PM
 
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The Central Valley has been a major GOP bastion for decades
 
Old 05-25-2013, 11:17 PM
 
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Yep, and the welfare farming of the valley is legendary. Build us dams and canals and divert water from northern California and then give us farm subsidies on top of that, and if anybody else want a share of that water, call them socialists. They are the sames as the welfare ranchers of the Intermountain West, complete hypocrites.

But I do agree that the Valley has a bunch of people who are not well served by the coastal/urban element. The Valley has real issues. Too bad they are addicted to underpriced water and illegal labor, couple with right wing silliness.
 
Old 05-25-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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Yep, and the welfare farming of the valley is legendary. Build us dams and canals and divert water from northern California and then give us farm subsidies on top of that, and if anybody else want a share of that water, call them socialists. They are the sames as the welfare ranchers of the Intermountain West, complete hypocrites.

But I do agree that the Valley has a bunch of people who are not well served by the coastal/urban element. The Valley has real issues. Too bad they are addicted to underpriced water and illegal labor, couple with right wing silliness.
Funny how Republicans are for government subsidies before they were against it, and love illegal immigration on one hand, but attack illegals on the other.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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The problem with this state's Republican Party is they went full nutty tea bagger when the vast majority of the population is moderate to center-left. If you run wing nuts you won't wing outside of very specific gerrymandered districts and once the new redistricting law goes into effect you're going to see the gerrymandered districts disappear and instead you'll find a sea of purple districts. Moderates and centrists will do well but extremist ideologues will find they can't win anything.

That's a good thing because the state party, as it exists today, is completely wacko fringe so eventually they'll either come back to the middle or they'll never win elections.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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BTW the only reason that Republican won was because he was moderate and because it was a very low turn out special election. The first general election he has to run in he's going to lose. Currently, Republicans only do well in low turn out elections in this state as the extremists tend to be the only ones who show up but as soon as the general election rolls around voter turn out goes up and Republicans have a really hard time. Thus the Republican obsession with voter suppression and their recent switch from primaries to caucuses (where a small but vocal minority can win even though they'd lose a primary where even all party members get to vote).
 
Old 05-26-2013, 03:40 AM
 
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Yep, and the welfare farming of the valley is legendary. Build us dams and canals and divert water from northern California and then give us farm subsidies on top of that, and if anybody else want a share of that water, call them socialists. They are the sames as the welfare ranchers of the Intermountain West, complete hypocrites.

But I do agree that the Valley has a bunch of people who are not well served by the coastal/urban element. The Valley has real issues. Too bad they are addicted to underpriced water and illegal labor, couple with right wing silliness.
They're the biggest socialists and welfare queens out there but they all love to claim they're a self made man with their inherited estates and their endless welfare from water to crop subsidies to getting paid to not farm. I'd love to get into the not farming business as I think I could do it very well. I could sit around all day making sure I don't farm and that no crops are planted in my field. That sounds like something I'd be good at.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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The hate machine in this thread not-withstanding, it is interesting how quickly things can change in the political world.

In November the left was dancing in the streets and announcing that the GOP was dead, and would be dead for the next fifty years. As of today the WH is embroiled in a handful of controversies and scandals, there are multiple hearings, politicians are scrambling to do damage control, and likely some suited-idiots high on the food chain will lose their jobs. All in six months.

Same with the farmers and the smelt, and the Dems and the Repubs in California. Who would've thought that the right could ever get a decent foothold in the fruit-bar state of Cali? All over a fish.

This thread (and the left's manic, knee jerk, desperate need to dismiss and minimize the impact of this political shift) is amusing while drinking my morning coffee. Good deal.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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In related news, California is now running a surplus. Hey, that must be because their state legislature and executive branch are controlled by Republicans, yes?
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