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Old 05-25-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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I disagree, we should strive for effective and efficient govt. Everything else is just sound bites.
which is just what i said.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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First off all, you are admitting you engage in the exact same behavior as those you ridicule and seem to despise. So you are no better than they, how does it feel?

Second of all point out where I generalized.

Lastly, I'm part of the pragmatic party.
I'm lowering myself to your level. You caught me. Good job.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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First of all, what the hell do you mean "for society"? Everything the government does is, in theory, "for society."

Second, no, we borrow way to much from China, the federal reserve, etc. Thing is, most of said borrowing came from the openly right wing presidents, like Reagan and Bush, to build a useless empire overseas. If we cut our imperial budget (I refuse to call it defense spending) by two thirds we'll be out of debt...but the military industrial complex would never go for that.

The new borrowing has been brought to us by that right-wing hack Obama and his still perpetual war and kickbacks to the corporations who own him.

If we ended corporatist kickbacks, ended the empire and had a fair tax code with tariffs on goods made in communist China and money hidden in tax shelters, we would be out of debt in less than a decade. America is run by openly right-wing hacks (republican) and closeted right-wing hacks (most democrats and the douche-monkey in chief) and hence that won't happen.

Oh, and the vacation time in most European countries is the result of 80% of their populace being in unions, as opposed to 10% in America. The government doesn't have much to do with that.
Well not anymore. The government does things for its allies in order to retain power.

As for China in a few years the fed will own it all. I guess we can just disband the fed and wipe the slate clean. Maybe that is what the end game is.

"What this means simply is that as of this moment, the Fed has, in its possession, a record 30.32% of all outstanding ten year equivalents, or said in plain English: duration-adjusted government bonds. It also means that the amount of bonds left in the hands of the private sector has dropped to a record low 69.68% from 69.95% in the prior week.
America may or may not be becoming increasingly socialist and/or nationalized, but there is no doubt about it: its bond market most certainly is.



Finally, the above means that with every passing week, the Fed's creeping takeover of the US bond market absorbs just under 0.3% of all TSY bonds outstanding: a pace which means the Fed will own 45% of all in 2014, 60% in 2015, 75% in 2016 and 90% or so by the end of 2017 (and ifthe US budget deficit is indeed contracting, these targets will be hit far sooner)."


As Of This Moment Ben Bernanke Own 30.5% Of The US Treasury Market... And Will Own All By 2018 | Zero Hedge
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I'm lowering myself to your level. You caught me. Good job.
You consistently lower yourself to the level of those you ridicule, glad you admit and understand you are no better.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: North America
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The question is stupid because it is nothing more than a generalization. The world doesn't operate on black and white principles, yet that is how you present it.
It is not a generalization at all. I just think you have no answer.

I notice that Obama worshipers never can actually answer questions directly when it comes to the specifics of the leftist policies that they hoist upon the innocent.

Why not take the time and be SPECIFIC about how you'd like to fund a France-style cradle to grave system of government support.

I suppose a 75% tax on "THE RICHâ„¢" and a 80% reduction in the Pentagon's budget is a start but, hey, why don't you tell us what ideas you have?

[Or you can take the time to deflect a bit more...]
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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Yes, I believe he did call the African-American president a monkey.
But don't worry...Republicans aren't racist at all. They keep saying so.
Correction --- African-White president. Obama is just as much white as he is Kenyan, and the liberals used to portray George W. Bush as a monkey.

In case you have forgotten:

http://www.democratic-republicans.us...bush-chimp.jpg

Unfortunately for Obama, he's got those same monkey-like features that Bush has and that's how he's going to be portrayed also.
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:13 PM
 
Location: North America
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Correction --- African-White president. Obama is just as much white as he is Kenyan, and the liberals used to portray George W. Bush as a monkey.

In case you have forgotten:

http://www.democratic-republicans.us...bush-chimp.jpg

Unfortunately for Obama, he's got those same monkey-like features that Bush has and that's how he's going to be portrayed also.
Referring to African-Americans as monkeys is racist.
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:16 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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It is not a generalization at all. I just think you have no answer.

I notice that Obama worshipers never can actually answer questions directly when it comes to the specifics of the leftist policies that they hoist upon the innocent.

Why not take the time and be SPECIFIC about how you'd like to fund a France-style cradle to grave system of government support.

I suppose a 75% tax on "THE RICHâ„¢" and a 80% reduction in the Pentagon's budget is a start but, hey, why don't you tell us what ideas you have?

[Or you can take the time to deflect a bit more...]
It is a generalization, plain and simple. You are full of assumptions about everything in this thread. Because I disagree with you've, you assume I am an Obama supporter.

And I've already said I don't support a France style system, is your mind blown?
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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Gotta give them a sec. They're probably pleasuring themselves right now.
i lol'd
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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Referring to African-Americans as monkeys is racist.
You should hear what I say outside of these forums.
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