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Old 05-25-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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There seem to be a lot of Commie Conservatives here.

ie: people who want to control what those on welfare can spend their money on.

That is Statism , a thing you are supposed to be against.

Do I notice a touch of hypocrisy yet again by the right-wingers?

Yes, of course I do!

Give welfare recipients cash and stop pleading to Big Brother.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:43 PM
 
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There seem to be a lot of Commie Conservatives here.

ie: people who want to control what those on welfare can spend their money on.

That is Statism , a thing you are supposed to be against.

Do I notice a touch of hypocrisy yet again by the right-wingers?

Yes, of course I do!

Give welfare recipients cash and stop pleading to Big Brother.
This conservative doesn't want to control what people on welfare spend their money on, I want to make welfare a short term, temp solution as it was always supposed to be. I want to severely limit how long people can collect welfare and I want to see real penalties for people who commit welfare fraud.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:47 PM
 
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That's fair enough, and if combined with job creation then that's a good thing I'm sure.

But how about all those who want to micro-manage - ie: control food choices of those on the dole, whether they can go to church, buy soap, bus tickets etc..?

That is Stalinism.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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That's fair enough, and if combined with job creation then that's a good thing I'm sure.

But how about all those who want to micro-manage - ie: control food choices of those on the dole, whether they can go to church, buy soap, bus tickets etc..?

That is Stalinism.
Who are you talking about? Can you give us some examples of people wanting to control someone going to church or buying soap?
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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Just look at any of the numerous food stamp type threads around here.

In those, the majority of posters want to control what food stamp people can buy.

ie: no candy, soda, lobster etc.., and many say they should not be able to donate to church.

That is control, totalitarian style.

I thought Cons didn't agree with this kind of thing?
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:52 PM
 
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Food stamp money SHOULDN'T be for any of those non food things. You talking Cash Benefits? Different beast.

I don't like micromanagement of these things either, but it's always good to see where/how things are being used and adjust if necessary.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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I am saying that ALL welfare money should be in cash so as to overcome this kind of fascist mind control.

Or is that what you all want?
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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There seem to be a lot of Commie Conservatives here.

ie: people who want to control what those on welfare can spend their money on.

That is Statism , a thing you are supposed to be against.

Do I notice a touch of hypocrisy yet again by the right-wingers?

Yes, of course I do!

Give welfare recipients cash and stop pleading to Big Brother.

:::snicker:::
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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So are you saying that you own someone elses' welfare check then?
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: NJ
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So are you saying that you own someone elses' welfare check then?
The taxpayers own that money; the recipient should use it with constraints decided 100% by taxpayers. Someday, perhaps, a few on the dole will be taxpayers, too.

Earn your own keep if you want freedom to decide how you allocate your spending no questions asked.
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