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Old 05-28-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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That is EXACTLY what the Democrats do. They build a message to appeal to those who would most like the idea of getting help from the government.
So, what you're saying is that religion is as bad as the Democratic Party?

 
Old 05-28-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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So, what you're saying is that religion is as bad as the Democratic Party?
Actually, no.

Religious zealots, like most zealots, are likely to cultivate supporters from the most likely pool of candidates.

The policies of the Democratic party are analogous.

I am not saying religion in general works that way. The average church going person, whether Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, etc. seems uninterested in active recruitment.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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Oh noes!

Another war on Christianity!


When will the senseless persecution of the largest majority in the nation stop?!
 
Old 05-28-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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In college I and many other female students were harassed by a street preacher on campus. One day when I walked past him he screamed that if I did not accept Jesus, I would be raped and die of AIDS.

I had had enough at that point. Every single day he'd yell disgusting things at females, calling us "sluts" and telling us to "cover ourselves" because we were being "sexual temptresses". He would usually weave obscenities into these insults.

If he had not been spouting random Bible verses in-between these vulgar outbursts, the police would have escorted him off campus long ago. But since he was a "preacher", they let it slide. I complained to the university police and threatened to sue the university if he was not removed from campus. (I wasn't really going to sue.)

The "preacher" was escorted off campus that day by the university police, and he immediately resumed his vulgar preaching across the street. He was back on campus the next day, continuing to harass female students. Others complained, and after he was kicked off campus several times they finally decided to ban him from returning.

He was a disgusting pig. That was almost 20 years ago; nowadays I have no doubt that someone really would sue. And he'd probably sue for being kicked off campus.
There was a crazy dude like that at U of Illinois around that time.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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Oh noes!

Another war on Christianity!

When will the senseless persecution of the largest majority in the nation stop?!
Bigotry is bigotry.

I don't think you've thought this through as your defense would apply to mysoginists since women are a majority....it's ok?
 
Old 05-28-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Bigotry is bigotry.

I don't think you've thought this through as your defense would apply to mysoginists since women are a majority....it's ok?
It would be ok to stop a crazy woman from bothering random people's children with the S.C.U.M. Manifesto, sure.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If this man sat his happy little self on the corner, running a booth where people could pick up literature at their choosing, or where he did not approach children and hand them things, there would be no issue.


Where someone feels harassed, or that their children are being harassed, then there are competing interests that must be balanced. If he handed literature to adults, it would also likely not be a problem.






Save the dramatics, Beulah.

(Ironically, your kind of people worked DECADES to suppress and prosecute people who read or espoused Marx... which I'm also willing to bet you've never actually even read yourself).






No, I just am willing to bet you have only a very rudimentary education on the first amendment.
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Discussions have willing participants, not scared children being harassed by a grown man that won't let them walk away.


Where are the parents of the children in all this hoopla? Hopefully the parents have educated the children and then when they had a question, the educated them again and not brainwashed them.


You want to blame this person for expressing his rights, for a parents lack of educating their own children.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Leave my kids the hell alone, creep.


We finally have a winner!


Someone that will actually use their 1st amendment against this individual, instead of force, or violence.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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Where are the parents of the children in all this hoopla?
Apparently, they are telling authorities about a man approaching their children without permission, and foisting his religious views on their children. The authorities reacted to COMPLAINTS about a man in the parking lot approaching random children.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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We don't have the first amendment, to discuss the weather.
The first amendment is in place to discuss very very controversial things, including things such as religion and our federal governments actions. To discuss openly and freely, without prosecution or oppression.


Yet here you are, wanting to oppress and prosecute. Stalin & Marx would be proud!


I bet you think I'm a religious right wing nut, too.



You have choices in life. Here you have 2. Walk away or verbally confront, with your own 1st amendment rights.
The force of the hand is oppression.

You have to ask? Where's the parents???
If he was forcing Satanist pamphlets on children, or trying to convert them to homosexuality, I'd bet you'd be singing a different tune.
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