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Old 06-04-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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.that PP is hiding behind its social welfare advocacy and no one is challenging the level of its political activity.
...Why should I?

I wouldn't even question a conservative group doing that.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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Do you guys even bother to look this stuff up or try to understand it before you go on a rant?
Here's a break down of the different types of tax exempt structures:
501(c) organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Planned Parenthood is divided into several different organizations with different tax exempt status, separate boards, monies, etc.

501(c)4 organizations can do political work, as long as it's less than 50% of what they do--the rest has to be (or is supposed to be) social welfare activities that benefit the entire community. Why would PP have to form TWO 501(c)4 organization? They qualify as a social welfare group--they provide healthcare services and healthcare education to the general public--so they're legally eligible to do spend part of their monies on candidates and campaigns as well. People who donate to the 501(c)4 can't write the donation off on their taxes, but the (c)4 doesn't have to pay taxes on the donation either.

PP largest group is their 501(c)3 organization, which is limited to charitable, educational, scientific, or literary work--this is the majority of their service provision. This is their main organization, and the group where gifts are tax deductible for the donor. All of their major grant money, including federal grants, would go through this group. That organization can't work on campaigns or endorse candidates AT ALL.

PP hasn't done anything sneaky or special. The work they do CLEARLY fits in the guidelines for both 501(c)3 and 501(c)4 work.
Neither did any of the groups the IRS targeted but yet many still cheered on the IRS going after them while leaving groups like P.P. alone.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:20 PM
 
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No they can't, a church cannot endorse, fund or campaign for any political candidate or party. They may advocate issues but there is line that cannot be crossed.
where did i say that the church was endorsing, fund or campaigning for any political candidate or party? Please quote me exactly.

What I said was:

Any entity can contribute funds to where they want. Churches do it.

Please show us where in those two sentences did i mention campaigning, endorsing or funding?
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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You chose to opine.....however useless that opinion might be.....im still interested in a cogent liberal viewpoint.....if there is such a thing.
Trust me, you wouldn't understand if someone explained it to you. Slowly.

It taint gonna sink in.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Trust me, you wouldn't understand if someone explained it to you. Slowly.

It taint gonna sink in.
Give it your best shot. I'm all ears.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Types of Organizations Exempt under Section 501(c)(4)

Social Welfare organizations: Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.

Do any of the Teabagger groups contribute to social welfare of others? No? That's what I thought.

You support Pres. Barack Obama, you support women's rights. Plain and simple.

All better now? Good. Now run along.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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Types of Organizations Exempt under Section 501(c)(4)

Social Welfare organizations: Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.

Do any of the Teabagger groups contribute to social welfare of others? No? That's what I thought.

You support Pres. Barack Obama, you support women's rights. Plain and simple.

All better now? Good. Now run along.
How do you know? Which applications have you had the chance to read??

That's what I thought. More hypocrisy and deflection from the left.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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How do you know? Which applications have you had the chance to read??

That's what I thought. More hypocrisy and deflection from the left.
No one was arrested. No one was sent to jail. Most of these crybabies were not given tax exempt status fast enough to make them happy, but that does not mean they were unfairly denied.

I'm not carrying water for the IRS, I have no love for them or their policies, but the Republican clown car parade of their hand picked whiners testifying about "tyranny" and "being scared of their government" and blah blah blah is just yet more hyperbole, and more red meat propaganda by Republicans.

At least it is a break from the Benghazi "scandal", but it is never enough for wingnuts, as their appetite is insatiable. And Republicans have them trained to slobber at the bell.
The bell never stops ringing.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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They had to report who gave money to them, who volunteered for them, what books they read, and the list of questions that should not have been asked went on and on. Then the names of people who gave to them were sent to groups who had opposite political view for harassment.

All dirty tricks stuff like in the Nixon era but the Nixon people never used the IRS for political reasons even if Nixon wanted to, his people said it was against the law and they never did it.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:13 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Planned Parenthood operates its social welfare organization under the 501(c)(3). This is a legitimate use of the IRS tax-exempt status.

However, Planned Parenthood also operates an overtly political 501(c)(4) that put its resources directly into the re-election of Barack Obama in 2012.

If Democrats are so concerned about the Tea Party conservatives being targeted by the IRS, then why haven't we heard anything from liberals and Democrats about Planned Parenthood hiding behind the "social welfare" requirement while it overtly participates in the political process......the same issue that presumably the IRS has with conservative groups?

Let's be clear: Planned Parenthood's political arm is not about women's health. It's about electing Democrats, and more specifically, Barack Obama in 2012.

Where is the outrage liberals? Will you stand up and demand that Planned Parenthood receive additional scrutiny?

Home - Planned Parenthood Action Center
1. I like how you think Democrats are all knowing now LOL.

2.You gave us a link a website that does not show a single thing you posted in your comment.

PP's 501(c)4 did not campaign for President Obama, Tea party groups readily support candidates.

#FAIL
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