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Old 06-09-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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yes there are negative things we can say about student choices but the fact remains, just like france-- the lack of jobs and the big emphasis on education means PhD's work as cooks, just like paris.
PhD's aren't working as cooks though. Actually, if I had more interest in teaching I would get a PhD. $150K starting salary, royalties from books, and summers off.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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Because it makes a sociology class (which is probably an elective they need to graduate with a BA) more interesting and relevant to their lives? You're confusing a gimmick with classes that try to make complex subjects relevant to the life experiences of students. I think that's a good thing.
Funny when I went to college, we didn't need gimmicks to make us sign up for classes. No gimmick in "Quantitative Analysis", or "Calculus 2", or "Russian Literature", or "Accounting", "Western History". I don't think a single one of my courses had a gimmick to it. One semester I ended up taking Ethics because courses were full, it was very interesting but no gimmicks and it wasn't exactly what I thought it would be.

Maybe today's students have to have gimmicks, maybe the gimmicks are why tuition rates are so sky high now. Maybe like Lady Gaga herself, professors now know to use gimmicks to sell courses.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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Funny when I went to college, we didn't need gimmicks to make us sign up for classes. No gimmick in "Quantitative Analysis", or "Calculus 2", or "Russian Literature", or "Accounting", "Western History". I don't think a single one of my courses had a gimmick to it. One semester I ended up taking Ethics because courses were full, it was very interesting but no gimmicks and it wasn't exactly what I thought it would be.

Maybe today's students have to have gimmicks, maybe the gimmicks are why tuition rates are so sky high now. Maybe like Lady Gaga herself, professors now know to use gimmicks to sell courses.
I attended college several (many, many) years ago - we had a lot of sociology classes similar to the ones listed above. We had various feminist literature classes if one was so inclined. Theology classes if that piqued your interest.

It's amazing that you really weren't aware these classes existed until now. Perhaps you were just focused on your math.

It's college, not a trade school. There's quite a variety out there.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: southern california
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PhD's aren't working as cooks though. Actually, if I had more interest in teaching I would get a PhD. $150K starting salary, royalties from books, and summers off.
i speak from personal experience.
have u lived in france or paris friend? did u listen to sarkozy's last state of france message b4 he left office?
all of it true.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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i speak from personal experience.
have u lived in france or paris friend? did u listen to sarkozy's last state of france message b4 he left office?
all of it true.
This is America. People with PhD's aren't working as cooks.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: southern california
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This is America. People with PhD's aren't working as cooks.
advanced degree people dont hire in below their employability??? LOL. everyone that applied for my job when i retired had advanced degrees 2 of them were lawyers.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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I'm still laughing at the OP for not knowing the difference between an elective and the required courses.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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advanced degree people dont hire in below their employability??? LOL. everyone that applied for my job when i retired had advanced degrees 2 of them were lawyers.
That wasn't your original claim.

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yes there are negative things we can say about student choices but the fact remains, just like france-- the lack of jobs and the big emphasis on education means PhD's work as cooks, just like paris.
Now, we aren't talking about lawyers here. It's definitely possible that a lawyer or 2 tried to get a job as a cook when you retired, but don't try and pretend that is the norm. Cooks tend to be uneducated Mexicans or culinary graduates at the nicer restaurants.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:28 PM
 
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Yet that come here to go to school
Coming from a University that had far above the average ration of foreign students....foreign students tend to be more serious about college on average than Americans and are less likely to be in the silly classes.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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I graduated from Montclair. They have a specific major for TV production. They run a PBS station and the students work on producing the nightly news, as well as other programs. There are opportunities to work in TV production in New Jersey (20 miles from Manhattan, there's a a direct train on campus).
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