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Old 06-10-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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So you have no opinion on events that occurred before your time?
Its pretty difficult for 1 year olds to protest governments giving away cell phones in the 1970's, considering they didnt exist.

 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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No, you are the one that brought up fraud, not me. What was the amount of fraud during Reagan? I assume it was enough for Reagan to make it a focal point of his speeches.
I brought up fraud because it answers the question you asked in your thread title and your OP. The amount of fraud that takes place within this program is obscene. The number of people using this program has increased exponentially since Obama took office and there are no safeguards in place to stop most of this fraud.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Its pretty difficult for 1 year olds to protest governments giving away cell phones in the 1970's, considering they didnt exist.
Reagan was President in the 70's?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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There was no fraud during the Reagan administration? Then why did Reagan make welfare fraud a central point to his famous speech?
Its far more difficult to have landline fraud taking place because the phone lines go into a home, and not roaming..

Why do you think people would have 3-4 landline phones anyways?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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There was no fraud during the Reagan administration? Then why did Reagan make welfare fraud a central point to his famous speech?
Was there outrage and subsequent FCC auditing during Reagan ?
Why are you so fixated on the Reagan era ?

Look, the FCC did their audit and got rid of nearly half the subscribers.
Be thankful, very thankful for this.
Because now they are moving all these folks over to smartphones with data plans.
And that would have cost us dearly if they hadn't cleaned up the program.
Lifeline is morphing into Connecting America.

I got no dog in this race. I just want oversight and accountability in government.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Reagan was President in the 70's?
1980's. what difference does that make, since once again, there wasnt cell phones around and 1 year olds still cant object to something that doesnt exist, can they?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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The internal reviews found upwards of 41% of fraud, and that was THEIR OWN REPORT...

A billion dollars in Obamaphone fraud? | Human Events
Man, look an article about a claim about another claim proves NOTHING. The program is assumed to be filled with fraud not because anything has been proven, but because conservatives associate the people they perceive to be benefitting from the program as urban poor, lazy, immoral, and criminal.

So any flimsy claim, by any flimsy website, becomes the gospel truth to conservatives that justify their already formed beliefs.

How much fraud is in the Military spending? Why don't conservatives obsessed about that?

How much corporate tax fraud takes place? Why aren't conservatives obsessed about that?

How about government spending that goes directly to private companies that totals in the trillions why don't conservatives concern themselves with that fraud?

The answer is very simple, conservatives don't hate the military, they don't hate corporations and they don't hate the idea of public money going directly to private companies, but conservatives do hate the idea that lazy, immoral, criminal poor urban Americans get any government benefits.

Do better Please. Actual proof, not some rumor of or a rumor of a ....
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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Man, look an article about a claim about another claim proves NOTHING. The program is assumed to be filled with fraud not because anything has been proven, but because conservatives associate the people they perceive to be benefitting from the program as urban poor, lazy, immoral, and criminal.

So any flimsy claim, by any flimsy website, becomes the gospel truth to conservatives that justify their already formed beliefs.

How much fraud is in the Military spending? Why don't conservatives obsessed about that?

How much corporate tax fraud takes place? Why aren't conservatives obsessed about that?

How about government spending that goes directly to private companies that totals in the trillions why don't conservatives concern themselves with that fraud?

The answer is very simple, conservatives don't hate the military, they don't hate corporations and they don't hate the idea of public money going directly to private companies, but conservatives do hate the idea that lazy, immoral, criminal poor urban Americans get any government benefits.

Do better Please. Actual proof, not some rumor of or a rumor of a ....
THE FCC's OWN INTERNAL REPORT..

If you have something which says their OWN REPORT is wrong, please present it. Everything else you're babbling about has nothing to do with the thread.. take it elsewhere
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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Its far more difficult to have landline fraud taking place because the phone lines go into a home, and not roaming..

Why do you think people would have 3-4 landline phones anyways?
Having a landline prevented fraud because you couldn't get more than one line installed.
And it was limited service at that.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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1980's. what difference does that make, since once again, there wasnt cell phones around and 1 year olds still cant object to something that doesnt exist, can they?
I never said Reaganphones were cell phones, they were home phones. Bush was the one that expanded it to cell phones, were you guys 1 year old during the Bush administration?
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