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Old 06-12-2013, 03:32 PM
 
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Do you think that women aren't aware of the facts of pregnancy, and abortion, when she is going in for a medical procedure?
The facts of pregnancy is taught in many jr high schools. It isn't really a complex thing to understand.
Then you seem to agree with me. So what's the big deal?
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Then you seem to agree with me. So what's the big deal?
I don't think that a ultrasound is necessary for a woman to understand pregnancy and abortion.
I also don't think that government officials should be dictating any medical procedures.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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This isn't about misleading, it's about invading medical privacy. I hate abortion, but this was blatant pandering to the Republican base, and the behavior of the Republicans today was shameful. Total "my way or the highway, and go F yourself" type mentality on display here.
Kinda like the way Obama forced Obamacare on us, huh?
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:37 PM
 
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I don't think that a ultrasound is necessary for a woman to understand pregnancy and abortion.
I also don't think that government officials should be dictating any medical procedures.
I never said it was.

It's pretty amazing how reactive people have been to a statement they seem to agree with.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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I don't think that a ultrasound is necessary for a woman to understand pregnancy and abortion.
It isn't. The only time an ultrasound should be used, is on the recommendation of the doctor and only in agreement with the woman.

any other reason: Its unnecessary and invasive.

I want to know how Wisconsin plans on paying for these mandatory Ultrasounds. If I was pregnant and wanted an abortion, I'd be sending the medical bill to the State, and if they don't pay, sue them until they do.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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I never said it was.

It's pretty amazing how reactive people have been to a statement they seem to agree with.
I apologize, I was cross reading, and not paying attention to the argument, and who said what.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:32 PM
 
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Kinda like the way Obama forced Obamacare on us, huh?
Bad analogy. Obamacare was lengthily debated, and is supported by a majority of Americans.

If you've paid attention to how the Wisconsin GOP has been operating since Governor Walker came into office, you'd see a real example of rail roading legislation.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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Bad analogy. Obamacare was lengthily debated, and is supported by a majority of Americans.
Poll finds low support for Obamacare

Poll finds low support for Obamacare - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Well, not really, considering they're spent nearly the entire time Obama has been in office trying to defund Planned Parenthood which provides women with essential needs, such as birth control.
Essential needs?

I support planned parenthood, but calling bc a "need" is going a bit drama queen.

If its such a need, how did women survive before bc came along?
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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I think some mens rights need to be attached to every abortion bill that passes through every form of government.

If a woman can choose to have an abortion over the objections of the fertilizer guy, then the reverse should also be true. If a man doesnt want the kid, and the woman choose to have it, she should be responsible for 100% of the costs for that child.
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