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Old 06-17-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I didnt bother because i know the source it references. Boswell has been thoroughly debunked as a ideological hack. Try again.

Article | First Things
Thanks for posting a link to a Christian that doesn't like the idea of there being a history of same sex marriage in the world.

 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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And the Native American tribes right here in this country.

Look into the two spirit people.
Lol not this one again. An acceptance of homosexuality does not mean they had gay marriage. Besides only a few tribes even tolerated gays.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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wow, you are not even trying. A Religious website? And to think that we thought you'd use credible sources.

I asked for a credible debunking from a non-religious source. Seems you can't provide it.
A review from Paglia that appeared in the Washington Post is a religious site? Now who is trolling?
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Lol not this one again. An acceptance of homosexuality does not mean they had gay marriage. Besides only a few tribes even tolerated gays.
Just because you are intolerant of gays doesn't mean there shouldn't be gay marriage. You do know, no one cares that you hate gay men....because we both know, it is the gay men that bother you, not the gay women.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Lol not this one again. An acceptance of homosexuality does not mean they had gay marriage. Besides only a few tribes even tolerated gays.
You mean other than the fact that there were chiefs that were married to two spirit people of the same sex, including the ambassador to the US from the NA nations.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:43 PM
 
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A review from Paglia that appeared in the Washington Post is a religious site? Now who is trolling?
A review from Paglia in the Washington Post is nothing more than an opinion article; and said article then appears on a religious website.

News: A newspaper can print anything they want, even if its from a known anti-feminist like Paglia; who also had issues with being borderline anti-homosexuality.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Shall the Fairer Sex Acquire the Vote? The Horseless Carriage shall never replace a Trusty Steed!!
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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The first detailed academic study focusing on Native American same-sex unions was George Devereux's article on the Mohave
berdaches.1 25 Devereux reported that gender-crossing, homosexual
men (alyha) and women (hwame) had long been tolerated by the
Mohave, and that their same-sex marriages were institutionalized and
socially accepted. Thus, under tribal custom and law alyha married
(and divorced) men,1 26 and hwame married (and divorced) women. 127

On the basis of these accounts, Williams concludes that berdaches have been an accepted and in fact valued part of culture and law in a large majority of Native American
tribes.130 Most academic attention has been focused on male
berdaches, like We'wha, who frequently became revered leaders in
their communities. Often, a male child is consciously raised to be a
berdache, who assumes a special role in the community, mediating
between the spiritual and physical worlds.13
' Marriages between men
and male berdaches were widespread among Native American cultures.132
http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/c...%20site:edu%22
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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But but but only a FEW tribes accepted gays, just like anti-miscegenation laws were ONLY in the South!
 
Old 06-17-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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What seems to us, but not at all to Nuer, a somewhat strange union
is that in which a woman marries another woman and counts as the
pater [father] of the children born of the wife. Such marriages are by
no means uncommon in Nuerland, and they must be regarded as a
form of simple legal marriage, for the woman-husband marries her
wife in exactly the same way as a man marries a woman.... We may
perhaps refer to this kind of union as woman-marriage.
http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/c...%20site:edu%22
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