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Old 06-18-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Hollyweird needs to lay off the drugs, seriously, this is sick folks.

Superman as Jesus -- Christian imagery in Man of Steel | PopWatch | EW.com

It is often said that superheroes are modern glosses on mythic heroes of antiquity. Batman. Spider-Man. Iron Man. They are but many different modern faces of Gilgamesh, Odysseus, and the whole metamorphic Campbellian crew, and the stories of their Herculean labors contain truths about human nature, heroic character, and our innate want for freaky cosplay. Or maybe just catharsis for 9/11. Probably just that. Yes, “mythology” sounds pretentious, like the rationalization of those who need to justify spending so much time filling their imagination with weird tales of fabulous people wearing outrageous clothes while engaging in ridiculously violent or risky behavior. It’s a lot of weight to put upon the colorful shoulders of these pulp fiction icons.
But some characters carry the burden better than others. And one character in particular seems to demand it. He is the superhero who reigns Zeus-like above all others, and is more loaded than any other with mythic significance, to a degree as daunting as it is inspiring. For as the serial once said, Superman has powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. His character – his moral code – is far beyond us, too. As film critic/blogger Devin Faraci Tweeted this past weekend: “Superman should be held to the highest standards. He doesn’t get to f— up on any scale. That’s why he’s Superman.” (To some, this sacred geek icon is not a text to be interpreted; he is a set of immutable values to be evangelized.) In an interview with ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, Man of Steel producer Christopher Nolan sketched the creative challenge of dramatizing St. Superman the Comic Book Divine. “He is the ultimate superhero,” says Nolan. “He has the most extraordinary powers. He has the most extraordinary ideals to live up to. He’s very God-like in a lot of ways and it’s been difficult to imagine that in a contemporary setting.”
Not that it stopped them from trying. Indeed, the new model Man of Steel has a strong passing resemblance to a certain Son of God/Son of Man described in The New Testament of The Bible. The Superman Gospel begins a long time ago and far away in the heavens with an exalted otherworldly Father figure, whose very special son is not only proof of his awesome life giving creative powers but satisfy this story’s condition of a miraculous birth, albeit ironically: Kal-El is the first naturally conceived child on Krypton in countless years. Jor-El also plays the role of Old Testament prophet, promising fire and brimstone to a sinfully proud culture if they don’t immediately change their ways. Having failed to save his world by convincing them to reform, Jor-El executes a more radical redemption scheme through his only begotten son: The father will figuratively and literally place creation on Kal-El’s shoulders by imprinting the genetic record of his people on Kal-El. Through The Son, Krypton will be born again.
From this point forward, Man of Steel mixes (to varying degrees of success) superhero origin story, gay ‘coming out’ drama, and religious conversion narrative. The alien messiah comes to Earth as a baby and is raised by humble rural folk who are grateful for the blessing of a child, but also a little confused and even frightened by the extraordinary significance of the strange little boy. What child is THIS? Indeed. Kal-El loses his heavenly name but not his supernatural power. But in contrast Christ (and previous Superman stories), Clark Kent’s God-like identity is smothered, not burnished, by the influence of his well-meaning parents. They don’t want him acting like a Superboy, and more, have huge reservations about him becoming a Superman. But Clark can’t help it; it’s his nature to play savior. A moment when hyper-protective Jonathan Kent argues the point with Clark evokes a moment from the life of Christ, when Jesus’ parents discover him missing, go searching for him, and find him teaching the elders at the temple with a wisdom beyond his years. When Joseph scolds his adopted son for his actions and causing them anxiety, Jesus barks back: “Knew you not that I must be about my father’s business?” Jesus puts his parents in their place. Clark isn’t so fortunate. He’ll spend the rest of his youth hiding his true self from the world.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Indeed, the new model Man of Steel has a strong passing resemblance
to a certain Son of God/Son of Man described in The New Testament of The
Bible.


Given your commentary, above, I'll suggest that whatever it is you've been abusing ... stop.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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Where in the blue blazing hells do you get "gay jesus" out of this?
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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Where in the blue blazing hells do you get "gay jesus" out of this?
Did you read the 3rd paragraph?
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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I'd give everyone on the marketing team a raise.

They are brilliant.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Did you read the 3rd paragraph?
obviously you have a reading comprehension problem. a gay "coming out' story. He wasn't saying that Jesus was "gay" (or that Superman is gay) but how difficult it is from people who are categorized normally as weird, and usually an outcast to come forward.

That is the comparison being made.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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I'd give everyone on the marketing team a raise.

They are brilliant.
Its called indoctrination & the movie should have had an R Rating IMO. The use of profanity & violence was off the charts.

This clearly wasn't a PG-13 movie for kids.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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I didn't see anything in that article that suggests that he embodies a "gay Jesus."

I did see a reference to a gay "coming out" story and, if you saw the movie, you might understand the reference as I certainly do. In a nutshell, all of his life, he has hidden who he really is for fear that people would fear and/or ostracize him for simply be himself. Makes some kind of sense really, since he is an alien from another planet. And I certainly see the parallels between that and having to hide one's sexual orientation for fear of reprisal.


As for the "Jesus" bit, Superman has always had Christian connotations, always. In this particular film, they do happen to be pretty overt. The character is 33 years old, he was sent to save Earth... But again, that was pretty much always true. So?

Another take on the same subject:

Joel L. Watts: A Theologian's Review of Man of Steel
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Did you read the 3rd paragraph?
Just FYI, it is really hard to read since you bolded the whole thing. Best to go directly to the source.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:46 PM
 
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I didn't see anything in that article that suggests that he embodies a "gay Jesus."

I did see a reference to a gay "coming out" story and, if you saw the movie, you might understand the reference as I certainly do. In a nutshell, all of his life, he has hidden who he really is for fear that people would fear and/or ostracize him for simply be himself. Makes some kind of sense really, since he is an alien from another planet. And I certainly see the parallels between that and having to hide one's sexual orientation for fear of reprisal.


As for the "Jesus" bit, Superman has always had Christian connotations, always. In this particular film, they do happen to be pretty overt. The character is 33 years old, he was sent to save Earth... But again, that was pretty much always true. So?

Another take on the same subject:

Joel L. Watts: A Theologian's Review of Man of Steel
Wrong, wrong, wrong...

"Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, then students at Cleveland's Glenville High School, first conceived Superman as a bald telepathic villain bent on world domination."The character first appeared in "The Reign of the Superman", a short story from Science Fiction: The Advance Guard of Future Civilization #3, a fanzine published by Siegel in 1933.



Here is your source since you can't seem to read forums without assistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman
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