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1) Because we've already tried that, and it didn't work. Most of the really regressive, discriminatory laws that existed in the US were states laws. Jim Crow laws that mandated racial segregation are just the most famous example. Had we left that up to the states, millions of people in this supposedly "free" country would still be legally regarded as second class citizens.
2) Because state governments are even more corrupt and beholden to corporate power than the federal government. Only really big players like the financial sector and GM can really bullly the feds. But pretty much any corporation can bully a state government. As it is, companies play states off against each other all the time, seeing who will give them the biggest subsidies, the lowest taxes and the cheapest workforce. The decentralization you envision would only make this worse.
Moreover, that's the experiment the nation had under the Articles of the Confederation -- a weak central government with states making all laws. The result was chaos and inefficiency.
Today, with an even less provincial economy, returning to that would be worse. 50 different rules to comply with.
The feds want money to steal and fedgov is the mechanism they use to steal it.
It's as simple as that.
More like simpleminded.
The federal government provides popular services like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and national defense. You know what? It takes money to run those programs. We get that money through taxes and taxing isn't stealing.
I have to ask, why not? Why is the federal government so powerful in the US? Why shouldn't more power be given to individual states? Why shouldn't states have control over healthcare, economics, education and welfare and the federal government give transfer payments to handle these costs like in Canada? For instance, the federal government can make an economic plan and it's up to individual states whether they participate.
What's unreasonable about this? Why can't you give specific powers to states and trust them to handle it on their own?
Adopting the Canadian way means less central government? Would we have to translate our laws in to French?
The federal government provides popular services like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and national defense. You know what? It takes money to run those programs. We get that money through taxes and taxing isn't stealing.
"Provides"?-You make it sound like participation is voluntary.
"Get that money through taxes" - Get? again, we are forced to give up that money and at gunpoint if necessary. This is commonly known as theft.
Adopting the Canadian way means less central government? Would we have to translate our laws in to French?
Not unless you promised the French in a Treaty that your French community could continue to speak French and continue to be Catholic. Did you guys sign anything like that?
"Provides"?-You make it sound like participation is voluntary.
"Get that money through taxes" - Get? again, we are forced to give up that money and at gunpoint if necessary. This is commonly known as theft.
Wait? You want to cut off funding for healthcare for the elderly and military funding? I'm not talking about cutting off funding to a federal government.
Wait? You want to cut off funding for healthcare for the elderly and military funding? I'm not talking about cutting off funding to a federal government.
Funding?- this is just another feel good term for robbing peter to pay paul.
The fedguv only has the money it steals from others.
I want people to be responsible for their own healthcare and retirement. Stealing money from everyone and handing out whats left after the fedguv skim is but an illusion of caring to cover the crime.
And the military should be a fraction of its present size. A leaner,more efficient military focused on defense rather than aggression and occupation is what what we should have and our nation would be safer for it.
"... in Helvering v. Davis, the Supreme Court ... conferr[ed] upon Congress a plenary power to impose taxes and to spend money for the general welfare subject almost entirely to Congress's own discretion."
Self-centered greed-mongers have been working hard since 1936 to reverse the progress our nation has made towards a more compassionate society, with some success, especially over the last forty years. It remains an open question whether we've seen the beginning of American's plunge into a death spiral of supremacy of the moneyed or will that resurging evil be turned back.
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Wait? You want to cut off funding for healthcare for the elderly and military funding? I'm not talking about cutting off funding to a federal government.
In case anyone was wondering what the heck was going on in the recent "Is Canada more or less liberal than the United States?" thread, this comment shows clearly that there was a ridiculous misunderstanding of terms by some folks participating in that thread: Even the most conservative Canadian would find themselves a liberal in the United States: The American right-wing is so far extreme, that by all rights there needs to be a new word create to reflect the direction "right of right", and that has created such a vacuum in the center that the Democrats have moved there (much to the chagrin of leftist groups and the Occupy movement).
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