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I'm enjoying every cent I'm getting now that was taken from me against my will all my working life.
Enjoy!
You get more per month if you wait, but with no guarantees as to how long I have left on earth, I took mine the second it was available.
Oh I wouldn't have taken you as of retirement age. I have a bit more to go but will stay working. I might go back to making assorted other items I did in the past related to Buck Skinning for sale.
The industrial system is slowing again, world wide. China blew it and no one is building / buying direct anymore.
I wish silver would come down but i know better than to think that will happen. Working that was a lot of fun. All the time people ask if i ever will too, but I don't dare spend the price of the material, I was used to buying 100 troy ounces at a time when the price of silver ran around 5.50 to 6.90 maybe.
Now it's a joke. I have pounds of sheet left over still, but i just don't know what to do with it yet.
I take it this thread started in the Retirement forum.
Average disability check is not $1130. That might be the average RETIREMENT SS check, but not disability.
I've not seen firm numbers, but I'd guess the amount would be closer to $700-$800.
By the time you add in SNAP and other entitlements disability breeds, the overall benefit amount is probably considerably higher than $1130. I'm talking everything from SNAP to 0bamaphones, etc. There are entitlements those on disability get that RETIREMENT SS does not qualify for.
Average disability (SSDI) check probably is $1130 , it is equal to what the worker would get at full retirement age. This is lower than the average SS retirement check, probably disabled workers had lower wage jobs or worked fewer hours before becoming disabled. A childless adult getting $1130 from SSDI is probably not going to qualify for SNAP in most states.
Average SSI check is much lower, maybe around $500.
I always liked a comment from Otto von Bismarck who introduced into his new Germany Social Security (One of the first such programs in the World), Bismarck called it "Revolution Insurance" for the Good Count and ReichsKanzeller wanted social order not riots and armed clashes in the streets of his new Germany. When we froget that like we have so often in this contempory World you get you get the riots in Spain, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus, in Taksin Square in Istanbul, or the riots in Rio and Sao Paulo when the people see their is plenty of money 10s of billions of $ for the World Cup 2014 or the 2016 Olympics in Rio but little for healthcare, food aid or providing garbage pickup and sewers and clean water in Rio's Favellas. People who make up the Great Unwashed have half a brain and (1) can understand when they are getting a screw job and (2) will do something about it and (3) the elite power brokers might not like the solution chosen by the great unwashed masses!
People who understandably are disgusted with entitlement 'fraud' tend to think things are magically different in America because they are from America. They also believe they have intermittent super powers when they vote in their arranged elections. Relatively recently, Americans saw billions of their taxes loaned to profit-mongering mega-banks. To Ford, Inc., who received X amount of these billions, needed the money because they expanded in China and used their own money to do so exponentially there to capture the burgeoning Chinese/Indian auto market. Americans will find some subconcious way to justify this odd bit of commu-capitalist... I mean corporatist maneuver, but it should be evident what has happened here. And Americans simply won't bother upsetting this parade because they think they are untouchable. Nothing will dissuade us from this path, either, despite the severe uptick in gun & ammunition sales. In fact, another monumentous 9/11 redux... Oh, I forget PRISM. Sorry...
Poor people wherever they are understand acutely what their situation is early, especially if they have access to a developed media and that for fate they do not nor probably never will have a shot and being self-sustainable, i.e. independently fed, housed and dignified unless they join the underground economy. Skin color has nothing to do with it nor nationality. Those with control couldn't care less as long as they get what they want and that is how it is and will remain. Humans are rather dedicated insectoids in their need of structured hierarchies.
iBelieve the only pressure here is that those who presumably have the wherewithal to understand society (and I assume judges have some insight there) know that if these cases aren't approved, the streets become red, bright orange and smashed, as Europe can testify to. That society will become much more distinctly defined in regards to the growing economic disparity, which is bad not just for business but a society's complete modus operandi. Alot of Americans take for granted their blissful humdrum trips to the shopping center and it is preferable to see a few dirty panhandlers than active mobs out for retribution. The hobo reminds them of the unseen whip while the mobs are incarnate threat that will take and beat without dividend. In the end, a few dollars given to 'human refuse' means correlative tax 'breaks' for the corporation, who protect their loot anyway by offshoring it as Apple, Inc. and GE does, for example, in case another more favored corporation outbids or otherwise wrangles away Congressional protection. The media handles the rest with helpful stubs properly installed by educational rhetoric and antagonized cultural differences.
Well, I have meandered off-topic. Suffice it to type, a strange melange of commucapitalsm is our future with differing shades of despotic collectivism in force on the community level, particulars defined by economic level and local politics. Americans will barely notice the difference since it is tailored to look like an organic, natural social progression. SS payments to societal throwaways are just a means to an end that keeps the peaceful transition uninterrupted.
As for SSDI payments, it depends on quarters worked and earnings. The median is probably about $700 and monthly SNAP benefits between $15-$30 for those on SSDI w/o dependents. Compared to Apple, Inc.'s untaxed $170B and the unknown particulars of other unremitted or undertaxed amounts from other companies the unrelenting fraud is evident. Alot of these companies don't hire in America unless it is a necessary professional specialized position, positions Americans want too much money to do (if they can even do them- thanks education industry, thanks Hollywood!) So Congress passes out H-1B's and the inevitable 14th Amendment 'clause' makes it permanent- @ about 2/3rds the pay with the layoff card held in front shirt pocket. Or the job is simply relocated to hubs in, say, Bangaluru.
People with clamor for control and those without wish to take it away. Nothing new there but the means to keep it in balance.
I can't say. I was born in 51 and there isn't much wrong with me other than a back injury and even with that I can still get around. Every weekend over winter i was off back packing with my wife. We camped in the snow a bunch too. I stay pretty active between working, finding more work having a fair garden just 100 by 60 feet for food and a few rock gardens. I do all my own maint on anything and everything. I be my own doctor too, haven set many broken bones and sewn up a few nasty cuts.
I am still plucking out bone splinters from losing a battle with a 52 pound steel plate in 2010 in my left hand.
Out here in the woods you don';t just pick up and run to see a doctor for the little things.
Still I want to know why i am no entitled to my own money the Govt stole from me over these past 47 years?
In November i will turn 62 and i want my SS then and if not i want what's mine with interest. It isn't my fault the govt spent what wasn't theirs and should have invested with heavily.
Govt waste is what we get for our taxes... SS is not the same as SSI..... The OP appears confused.
Well, I am 51 and healthy too. But statistically older people are more likely to be disabled than those a generation younger. The poster I responded to wanted to know why more people in (older) boomer generation were getting disability then the ones in the younger (echo), and to me it makes sense that it's because they are older. Believe me, I want my SS one day, too.
I take it this thread started in the Retirement forum.
Average disability check is not $1130. That might be the average RETIREMENT SS check, but not disability.
I've not seen firm numbers, but I'd guess the amount would be closer to $700-$800.
By the time you add in SNAP and other entitlements disability breeds, the overall benefit amount is probably considerably higher than $1130. I'm talking everything from SNAP to 0bamaphones, etc. There are entitlements those on disability get that RETIREMENT SS does not qualify for.
And I quote ' the average monthly benefit for a disabled worker is $1130.00."
You are right i am computer illiterate. Don't know how to copy and paste or
how to dm. Thanks for trying!
Late to the party or not, as an issue I don't like to even think about it because it makes me so angry. How can there possibly be that many people who are disabled to the point they can't work? It makes me angry on two levels:
1. Because of the amount of Social Security money going to deadbeats.
2. Because of the injustice being done to the public perception to those who are truly disabled.
Roughly 35% of applications are were approved last year and that's with a lower application rate.
Sounds like a lot of rubber stamping alright but in the opposite direction.
The leading causes of ESRF are diabettes, food poisening and staph infections (i.e MRAS).
Which the cons then translate in to lifestyle choices because the only people that get type II diabetes are lard asses.
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