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Some of the comments on here really turn my stomach. It's disgustingly amazing to see some of the posters on here. They should be ashamed of themselves. Health care is a human right. This is non-negotiable. Every man, woman, and child is entitled to healthcare by virtue of their very humanity, imo at least.
Furthermore, the stupidity and ignorance displayed by some is also astounding. I personally have lived in a multitude of European countries (including ones with single-payer systems) and Japan, and have found their respective systems to be really high in quality and performance. The funny thing is a lot of these people who criticize the "European socialist health care system" (as if all the countries have the same system ) most likely haven't even been to any European country, let alone lived in one or used one their of their systems. It's amazing how uneducated some people can make themselves seem without even trying....
Everybody does have access to healthcare, just not free healthcare... Doctors won't work for free, nurses won't work for free, janitors, admin, rent, electric, water, bills have to be paid. European countries actually have fairly competitive systems - which is independent of payment.
Leftists want government employees to process their claims.
Compared to who's processing them now, it wouldn't be any worse! Every time I've had to call my ins. co, it seems I get some high school drop-out.
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
Paying for it does.
I want people to be responsible for themselves. The cost structure of health care needs to come down so it is affordable to all people. Making everybody pay into the risk pool is not making it more affordable - it just shifts the method of payment around.
The high cost of health care is not the consumer's fault. Few are abusing or even over-using their insurance. The purpose of insurance, all insurance, is to spread the cost over the insured. Do you have a few hundred thou in a box under your bed in case you get cancer?
Those 8000 people (California has a population of almost 40 million) can find better health insurance, I promise.
I have United Healthcare and they down right suck! They are the largest insurance carrier because they are appealing to employers. They are appealing to employers because their group health plans come at a cheaper premium. Their group health plans come at a cheaper premium because they offer sub-par coverage and cause an immense amount of member and provider abrasion that keeps costs down.
Compared to who's processing them now, it wouldn't be any worse! Every time I've had to call my ins. co, it seems I get some high school drop-out.
The high cost of health care is not the consumer's fault. Few are abusing or even over-using their insurance. The purpose of insurance, all insurance, is to spread the cost over the insured. Do you have a few hundred thou in a box under your bed in case you get cancer?
Im sorry, but most of the arguments against having single payer healthcare are just downright stupid, extremely tortured logic stretched out to the exosphere. Hence why I mock RWNJs by pretending to be angry that the government might make my healthcare accessible and affordable one day. I do hope ObamaCare fails and that we get single payer as a result. What we should have done in the beginning was have Medicare for all. I love the personal responsibility comments, those are golden. I bet you none a single one of these people either have, or have a close relative that is terminally ill. If they say they do, they are lying through their teeth because NOBODY would be able to say with a straight face to their father or mother, sorry mom/dad, it's your responsibility to pay for your cancer treatment, not mine or society's . Getting cancer, or MS, or Huntington's, or some other debilitating degenerative disease that slowly kills you is not the same as walking out in the rain and catching a cold afterwards
Obama is so very good at destroying the people of this country...in so many ways.
Too bad his healthcare "fix" doesn't fix anything. It makes existing problems worse (more expensive, less competition) and creates new problems (employers dropping full time employees to avoid coverage, docs quitting or retiring early, huge medicare gap).
Democrats are good at winning national elections, but can't govern worth a damn.
Im sorry, but most of the arguments against having single payer healthcare are just downright stupid, extremely tortured logic stretched out to the exosphere. Hence why I mock RWNJs by pretending to be angry that the government might make my healthcare accessible and affordable one day. I do hope ObamaCare fails and that we get single payer as a result. What we should have done in the beginning was have Medicare for all. I love the personal responsibility comments, those are golden. I bet you none a single one of these people either have, or have a close relative that is terminally ill. If they say they do, they are lying through their teeth because NOBODY would be able to say with a straight face to their father or mother, sorry mom/dad, it's your responsibility to pay for your cancer treatment, not mine or society's . Getting cancer, or MS, or Huntington's, or some other debilitating degenerative disease that slowly kills you is not the same as walking out in the rain and catching a cold afterwards
Im sorry, but most of the arguments against having single payer healthcare are just downright stupid, extremely tortured logic stretched out to the exosphere. Hence why I mock RWNJs by pretending to be angry that the government might make my healthcare accessible and affordable one day. I do hope ObamaCare fails and that we get single payer as a result. What we should have done in the beginning was have Medicare for all. I love the personal responsibility comments, those are golden. I bet you none a single one of these people either have, or have a close relative that is terminally ill. If they say they do, they are lying through their teeth because NOBODY would be able to say with a straight face to their father or mother, sorry mom/dad, it's your responsibility to pay for your cancer treatment, not mine or society's . Getting cancer, or MS, or Huntington's, or some other debilitating degenerative disease that slowly kills you is not the same as walking out in the rain and catching a cold afterwards
Medicare is expected to cost us $916,000,000,000 this year. It's not free.
The high cost of health care is not the consumer's fault. Few are abusing or even over-using their insurance. The purpose of insurance, all insurance, is to spread the cost over the insured. Do you have a few hundred thou in a box under your bed in case you get cancer?
I totally agree that's it's not the consumer's fault. There are way too many hands in the money pot, way too many needless regulations that make it more expensive to operate health care facilities. The government should never be involved in the revenue stream.
No on your cancer question - that's what insurance is for. Insurance should not be for a 101 degree temperature, or a skin rash. It should be for high dollar medical costs only - or at the customer's discretion.
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) most likely haven't even been to any European country, let alone lived in one or used one their of their systems. It's amazing how uneducated some people can make themselves seem without even trying.... 
. Getting cancer, or MS, or Huntington's, or some other debilitating degenerative disease that slowly kills you is not the same as walking out in the rain and catching a cold afterwards
