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Old 07-03-2013, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Participants in FICA, as "Contributors," have pledged their persons and property as a surety on the public debt.
Oh boy.... SovCit insanity. Just what was needed to improve this thread.

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Old 07-03-2013, 06:24 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I am sure you can find doctors to remove them for you. but that really is not a bad idea. you can only make so much. I will sell my appendix.
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Niflheim
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Pro-abortion people use the "it's my body" excuse for killing a baby, why can't I use "my body" to enrich my family by selling organs to the highest bidder?

Get rid of the donor waiting list....give people the option to donate or sell.
Sure, why not?
Shouldn't be ANYBODY'S business what I do with my body.
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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Pro-abortion people use the "it's my body" excuse for killing a baby, why can't I use "my body" to enrich my family by selling organs to the highest bidder?.
i didn't know that you couldn't.

i agree with you. i think the world would be a better place if some people just cut their losses and donated their organs to someone else.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Pro-abortion people use the "it's my body" excuse for killing a baby, why can't I use "my body" to enrich my family by selling organs to the highest bidder?

Get rid of the donor waiting list....give people the option to donate or sell.
Simple, it is not your body. If it were suicide would be legal. You are a subject of the government who owns you and your body.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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Pro-abortion people use the "it's my body" excuse for killing a baby, why can't I use "my body" to enrich my family by selling organs to the highest bidder?

Get rid of the donor waiting list....give people the option to donate or sell.
Because our organs are necessary in some way to our survival, whereas a fetal cluster of cells is not necessary for our survival, and in fact, CAN AND OFTEN DOES KILL. Which is why I'm not planning to have any kids.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Because our organs are necessary in some way to our survival, whereas a fetal cluster of cells is not necessary for our survival, and in fact, CAN AND OFTEN DOES KILL. Which is why I'm not planning to have any kids.
But those cells are necessary to the survival of the future baby, child, adult ... if only it were allowed to grow up.

Can I use the same logic and say YOU are not necessary for MY survival so, therefore, I can do what I want with you if I deem you to be inconvenient to me?

It's my life to do with as I please. You don't have the right to tell me what to do with my life any more than I have the right to tell you what to do with yours. I believe this right extends to all humans no matter how small. The only time abortion is justifiable is to save the life of the mother. Then it's a choice between lives not killing one for the convenience of the other.

And pregnancy rarely kills. You have a 99.985% chance of surviving a pregnancy and delivery. If the stats I just googled are correct, you are twice as likely to die after an abortion but rates are low there too as that means you have a 99.97% chance of surviving an abortion.

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Old 07-03-2013, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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But those cells are necessary to the survival of the future baby, child, adult ... if only it were allowed to grow up.
When it becomes an actual baby. child, adult you may have a point. Until then, not so much.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I remember a story a few years back where parents had another child just so they could get a liver for their 3 year old.

What's the difference. I'm sure they love both kids, but should that have been illegal?

The argument against abortion would have made this act illegal. Surely the baby should have been allowed a say in whether they wanted this to be done.
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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But those cells are necessary to the survival of the future baby, child, adult ... if only it were allowed to grow up.

Can I use the same logic and say YOU are not necessary for MY survival so, therefore, I can do what I want with you if I deem you to be inconvenient to me?

It's my life to do with as I please. You don't have the right to tell me what to do with my life any more than I have the right to tell you what to do with yours. I believe this right extends to all humans no matter how small. The only time abortion is justifiable is to save the life of the mother. Then it's a choice between lives not killing one for the convenience of the other.

And pregnancy rarely kills. You have a 99.985% chance of surviving a pregnancy and delivery. If the stats I just googled are correct, you are twice as likely to die after an abortion but rates are low there too as that means you have a 99.97% chance of surviving an abortion.
Wow, you must think I was telling you what to do. I don't care what you do. I was stating what I will do, which is have no kids, thank goodness, thank God (whichever one anyone believes in), or thank the wind.

Cells are necessary for WHAT? Spilled semen is as much a missed opportunity for that child to be born. SO WHAT? SO WHAT?

As for pregnancy, pregnancy takes a toll on a woman's body, whether or not you're in denial (and I frankly could care less how much in denial you are). It can threaten her life in countless ways, one very common one is pre-eclampsia. It totally yanks her skin into a size and shape that looks clownish and never returns to its original state, unless one has beaucoup money to visit the local plastic surgeon. It moves organs out of the way, widens the bones of the pelvis and hips, can leave women with urinary and fecal incontinence from the mass movement inside, it causes her breasts to drag and sag, it depletes calcium and other necessary minerals and vitamins from her body (for ex., my sister's teeth were left in a sorry-ass state after her 3rd pregnancy, and that was confirmed by her dentist, her OB-GYN, and her PCP), the radical hormonal changes can cause hair to fall out and not regrow, or regrow less strongly, and cause thousands of other bad, permanent, and horrific changes on a woman's body. Me? Subject myself to that sh*t? No way. It's horrific. Why would I even do that?
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